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Old Mon, Nov-17-14, 08:15
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I found Peter's latest post, on a common genetic variant in Arctic populations interesting.

http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot....-in-arctic.html

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The paper itself is largely an account of the detective work involved in pinning down a specific mutation which has been positively selected for in a Siberian population living in the Arctic. The same mutation is also present in non related groups inhabiting the Arctic areas of northern America. The mutated gene is very common and frequently homozygous. It puts a leucine in the place of a proline in CPT-1a, the core enzyme for getting long chain fatty acids in to mitochondria. Putting a leucine where there should be a proline means the protein is basically f*cked. The mutation is linked, not surprisingly, to failure to generate ketones in infancy and can be associated with profound hypoglycaemia, potentially causing sudden death.

From the evolutionary point of view we have here a mutation which is significantly lethal at well below reproductive age, so it should have been weeded out because affected individuals are less likely to live long enough to pass on the gene. But it has been highly positively selected for in several populations, the common factors being cold climate and minimal access to dietary carbohydrate. It's a paradox.

Following a link in the paper gives us this abstract, with this snippet:

"Investigation of seven patients from three families suspected of a fatty acid oxidation defect showed mean CPT-I enzyme activity of 5.9 ± 4.9 percent of normal controls"

A value 6% with an SD of 5% suggests to me that some of these people may well have a CPT-1a function very close to zero. How common is the mutation?

"We screened 422 consecutive newborns from the region of one of the Inuit families for this variant; 294 were homozygous, 103 heterozygous, and only 25 homozygous normal; thus the frequency of this variant allele is 0.81"

I think "very common" is a reasonable description.

How dangerous is it?

"Three of the seven patients and two cousins had hypoketotic hypoglycemia attributable to CPT-Ia deficiency"

Quite dangerous.

The next thing we can do is google CPT-1a deficiency and have a look what needs to be done to stay alive if you carry this gene.


Clearly, if you can't transport LCFAs in to your mitochondria, you should run your metabolism on glucose/pyruvate and avoid the dysfunctional fatty acid transporter. This means raw corn starch, as we have seen used (probably wrongly) for glycogen storage diseases. Properly cooked starches are too short acting to reliably keep a child alive all through the night. They aren't safe enough.

Of course MCT oils have a role too. A CPT-1a defect has no effect on MCT metabolism so these can be used either directly by tissues or indirectly via liver/glial produced ketones.

LCFAs, unable to be metabolised, accumulate in the tissues as a storage disease. The advice is to avoid them as far as possible.

So the archetypical CPT-1a defect tolerant environment would seem to be a person sitting on a South Seas Island beach by a pile of coconuts chewing on a raw yam, with copious flatus night and day.

But it's not.

The CPT-1a defect evolved in multiple non related populations where both starch and MCT were very notable by their near-complete absence. It's an Arctic selected gene. No starches. No coconuts.



Let's take a speculative look at what is going on.

Living on a very low carbohydrate diet is associated with chronically elevated free fatty acids, chronically low levels of insulin and an ignorance of glucose. i.e. the body ignores glucose. Synthesise what glucose is needed but, beyond that, who cares?

Living in a sea of free fatty acids, which are taken up in to cells in a largely concentration dependent manner, allows an increased gradient to push FFA-CoA at any residual function in CPT-1a. It would appear, from the evolutionary perspective of Arctic inhabitants, that near ketogenic levels of FFAs are adequate even if you have the proline to leucine substitution at amino acid 479 in CPT-1a. You can do enough beta oxidation to cope.

Of course, the minute you lower free fatty acids, perhaps to the level of a post prandial starchivore, beta oxidation is going to grind to a halt without the concentration gradient effect. This is pathological. The temporary fix of substrate level ATP synthesis and related pyruvate supply to the mitochondria is fine for a while, but any reactive hypoglycaemia is going to be potentially fatal, especially if you are asleep or food deprived at the time. We know that insulin suppresses lipolysis at levels which don't budge GLUT4s. When insulin has suppressed lipolysis and blood glucose is low, FFAs might be fatally limited.

If you have the mutation but you never do the starchivore thing your FFAs are high 24/7, whether you have just chewed on a lump of seal blubber or not. No paper in the reference list appears to have looked at the FFA levels of children with this mutation on a mixed diet, let alone on the ancestral fat based diet of the polar regions. Given sustained very high levels of FFAs, you might even make some ketones.

If free fatty acids are high and there is no insulin to divert them in to storage, all of the nasty storage diseases associated with CPT-1a dysfunction might well disappear. This is the situation where the mutation allows carriers to thrive.

I think elevated free fatty acids, without elevated insulin, is a recipe for the tolerance of this mutation.




But the mutation is not just tolerated. This is no neutral mutation, it is positively advantageous. The prevalence of the mutated gene is far from random. Why is it beneficial?

This is not quite so simple.

Uncoupling is one component. Uncoupling respiration generates heat. There might just be a positive advantage to running your metabolism fairly uncoupled in a very low temperature environment. Elevated FFAs are completely essential to uncoupling and heat generation. Limiting fatty acid removal from the cytoplasm to the mitochondria might be a facilitator of uncoupling. It's FFAs on the cytosolic side of UCPs which facilitate proton translocation. Having a higher level of cytoplasmic FFAs at a given level of plasma FFAs might give an advantage over the normal level of uncoupling seen under near ketogenic diet conditions.

The second possibility is that, once you have established high enough levels of FFAs to push through the CPT-1a bottle neck, you simply run at this level flat out, all the time. One of the features of the CPT-1a from the modified gene is that it fails to be inhibited by malonyl-CoA. Even with limited CPT-1a activity there must be times at which ATP synthesis exceeds metabolic requirements and fatty acid transport ought to slow. There is no longer any brake to be applied to FFA transport if excess acetyl-CoA, exported to form malonyl-CoA in the cytoplasm, fails to inhibit CPT-1a . Oversupply of ATP within the matrix is likely to provide optimal uncoupling conditions, in excess of those from a ketogenic diet with regulated fatty acid uptake. That would be my guess. If it's cold enough, this might make the difference between survival or not. It keeps you warm, especially when you are asleep and the TCA should be quiescent.

Flicking through other references in the paper it does appear that indigenous Siberian people do have an elevated resting metabolic rate. In fat free mass it is 17% above calculated values i.e. they are uncoupled.

Finally, adults are not affected by the hypoglycaemia syndrome. My presumption is that, after puberty, they are sufficiently insulin resistant to have adequate FFAs present to maintain relatively normal mitochondrial function. It's the children who need their ancestral diet.



People with glycogen storage diseases die of hypoglycaemia (amongst other problems). We know that a deeply ketogenic diet both protects from hypoglycaemia and sets the body up to run perfectly well without any dietary glucose, which might be lost to glycogen stored permanently in the liver/muscles. There is every justification for giving the finger to cornstarch here and the folks suggesting a modification of ketogenic eating appear to be on fairly safe biochemical ground.

For the P497L mutation everything from the evolutionary perspective suggest that a very high FFA inducing diet may be equally efficacious. But the risks associated with failure, from the occasional safe starch meal or unsafe birthday cake at a party, carries the potential for catastrophe once insulin puts free fatty acids in to free fall.

Peter

BTW: You just have to wonder if any other CPT-1 mutations might behave in a similar manner to the P497L change in the Arctic... Could it be bye-bye time for cornstarch?


I looked up CPT-1a, it's the form most particular to the liver, muscles mostly have CPT-1b, in the brain it's CPT-1c. So a person could have less than usual activity in the liver, but not in the muscle. This would make for lower ketones. One role ketones play is down-regulation of lipolysis--in the very low carbohydrate diet, ketones pinch hit for insulin to some degree in this regard. It makes sense--part of the need for free fatty acids on the diet is for production of ketones, so more ketones=less need for lipolysis, ketones at a certain level means that free fatty acid levels are high enough to meet that particular need. So if it takes more free fatty acids to get to a certain level of ketone production in the liver, the muscle cells, where transfer of long chain fatty acids would be less compromised by this particular mutation, would nevertheless be exposed to the same elevation in free fatty acids as the liver.

Something that complicates the whole mess is that higher fatty acid oxidation in the muscle=increased glycerol release from triglyceride=increased substrate for gluconeogenesis from body or dietary fat.
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The uncoupling argument doesn't stick. The risk in the arctic isn't cold, it's heat. People there have been wearing basically the skins of winter animals and they should insulate those animals quite nicely. I disagree with the "overwhelm" argument too, where in spite of the limiting effect of CPT1a mutation, abundance of LCFA pushes through and provides ample fuel substrate for ATP generation.

The natural selection principle doesn't work on positive selection, it works on negative selection, whereby those who are not adapted die off, leaving those who are adapted to reproduce. And the primary factor for this is deficiency (famine), not excess (abundance). So that during abundance, both adapted and non-adapted can reproduce, while during famine only those who are adapted can reproduce. Therefore, CPT1a mutation isn't about limiting LCFA, then providing excess LCFA to push through this limitation. This would be adaptation to excess (doesn't obey natural selection principle). Instead, it's about limiting LCFA in order to preserve it for something other than just fuel substrate, or removing the need for such outright, then select another fuel substrate to compensate, which should appear more abundant by comparison. This would be adaptation to deficiency of LCFA which would kill off those who don't have the CPT1a mutation.
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But there's still the idea of differential availability--need for increased free fatty acids, to please the liver, which also exposes the muscles, with a different form of CPT1, to an increased availability of free fatty acids.

I agree that it's a given that the Inuit's main strategy to avoid freezing in the Arctic was environment control, with clothing and shelter that kept them warm most of the time. But at the same time, it's also plausible that they might have been exposed periodically to situations where they just plain got in trouble. People get lost, get stuck out in storms, etc.
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Well, yes, if I understand what you're saying, differential availability is just another way to describe adaptation to a form of deficiency. Removing/reducing the need for a particular resource through limiting its expenditure is adaptation to scarcity of this resource, especially if expenditure is regulated by availability, i.e. the more you eat the more you use, and if this resource is needed for essential functions besides that which is now limited, i.e. hormones vs fuel. It's not adaptation to abundance of it. However, it's possible that there's such an abundance of LCFA that limiting its cellular intake will be advantageous because of toxicity or something, like those arsenic bacteria that have an extremely strong ability to select for phosphorus to compensate for the abundance of arsenic, which is just as toxic for them as it is for other organics when integrated into its DNA. So the question is, is LCFA so abundant or scarce in the arctic diet? I couldn't figure out the answer earlier today. It's just too confusing to search for fatty acids. Current classification only does saturated vs unsaturated and that doesn't help me here.
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No wait, I think it's better to ask what happens when these people are starving. They can't switch to plants cuz there ain't any. Their diet is primarily fat and they'll select the fattest animals, and then only eat the lean parts when they starve. So what does CPT1a mutation do when these people eat mostly lean meat cuz they're starving? Peter said something about a switch between two amino acids which could be more significant than LCFA limiting.
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Actually, it's even more simple than that. When food is abundant, nobody needs to be adapted in any specific way, everybody can reproduce and pass on their genes. It's famine that kills off the maladapted. So, the good question is what does CPT1a do when people are starving in the arctic for them to survive longer than otherwise? Starvation experiments say it takes about 60 days to die. If CPT1a mutation allows us to live just 50% longer, that's enough for selection to occur. What I mean is forget about what CPT1a does when these people eat 6,000kcals cuz everybody can do just fine. It's when nobody eats that CPT1a would be selected for.
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I think I got it. This is a case of extreme insulin sensitivity in the liver. We end up with a) greater ketogenesis inhibition, b) greater gluconeogenesis/glycogenolysis inhibition, both from the greater insulin uptake due to greater insulin sensitivity, then c) lower blood insulin due to greater insulin degradation, and d) greater blood FFA from the lower esterification at adipocytes from the lower blood insulin acting on LPL and with a inverse effect on LPL in lean tissues, and e) lower blood ketones from a), and finally f) lower blood glucose from b). We should also see a significant drop in blood triglycerides and some effect on cholesterol. It's possible we could see an effect on satiety due to lower blood insulin in the brain, and/or an effect on leptin. Finally, we should see greater glycogen stores in the liver.

AHA! And this greater glycogen stores is advantageous during famine, which likely allows it to be released finally, along with greater ketogenesis and more ketones. That's where we get the positive selection for the CPT-1a mutation.

Ya, this isn't just a matter of what happens in the liver since the liver regulates the entire fuel system through insulin receptors, insulin degradation, and the resulting effects of this on the rest of the fuel system. Put differently, the bulk of insulin production ends up degraded in the liver after it's done its thing with the liver's various functions, instead of sticking around in the blood to maintain a higher baseline level.
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Whatever the reason for this mutation, I don't think it's an argument against ketosis. Just because something increases reproductive success doesn't mean it's good for health and longevity. We know that ketogenic kids mature more slowly. This would be a disadvantage in harsh climates where quicker reproduction would be selected for.
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