Give up carbs — are you out of your mind?
Words fail me! :rolleyes:
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OMG.
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If you scrolled down without reading it, it's the same old tired "Everything in moderation" nonsense. There, saved you 2 minutes of your life you'll never get back. Quote:
Okay then! :rolleyes: |
The mention of how Italians vs. English eat pasta sent me to the wikipedia page on obesity in Italy, which is scant but hilarious.
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Not that childhood obesity is funny. Accusing 2 year olds of having a lifestyle, though... Quote:
Okay, this one isn't so much hilarious as an abomination. Get the kids in bootcamp as early as possible. Back to our originally scheduled outrage. If you think spiralized butternut squash is less tasty than white paste extruded into tubes, you may have a problem. Notice she gives the real pasta the benefit of the sauce in the description. It needs it. Quote:
This is more obvious in women--but not absent in men, testosterone is a real advantage for dieters, and 40+ers generally have less than guys in their 20s. If reduced food intake does become necessary--that makes food quality more important, reducing the non-essential bits, carbohydrate fits nicely there, makes sense, and even if you can't eat all you want of roasts and bacon and eggs etc., it's generally easier to eat smaller portions of these than of pasta, bread etc. |
I'm so tired of this combination of arrogance, ignorance and stupidity. I didn't make it through the article. I started to fume so I stopped reading. What makes her an expert? Answer, "nothing".
Jean |
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This after the author herself found the diet doable for 15 years... Quote:
No. Not combining fat and carbs probably makes more sense. Equating protein with fat just because they often come together is silly. I have no problem with the idea that low carb isn't the only game in town. Claiming it's not a viable option is ignorant, impractical and incompetent. |
I had a good laugh over this article this morning too...but then later, was treated to even more great advice from the British Dietetic Association.
These 5 celebrity food regimes were just ripped to shreds by a top authority on diets You have to know the Ketogenic Diet would be on the list, but they saved their most withering criticism for Dr Aseem Malhotra and the Pioppi Diet. Maybe he should be pleased to have been elevated from a renown Cardiologist to a "Celebrity" :lol: http://www.businessinsider.com/5-ce...ciation-2017-12 Quote:
All here: https://www.bda.uk.com/news/view?id...B0%5D=news/list |
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It's never been off. Quote:
So people can learn to make the same crappy bread they can get cheap at the shop? BS, maybe they just wanna make better bread, so they learn to make it themselves. Quote:
It's been like this, and growing, ever since we figured out how to grow boatloads of wheat (and other grains). Nothing new here. Quote:
I wish I'd avoided wheat for the past 40 years. Pfft. Quote:
Idjit. Quote:
So, you bought shares, now you're pissed and wanna change things around with some feel-good BS? Boo hoo. Quote:
Cuz you eat as well as possible, but don't care what your kids eat? Idjit. Quote:
Yes, it will, only less so. Idjit. Quote:
Liar. Except for the sad part. I truly deeply genuinely believe you when you say you were sad there wasn't any more. Quote:
Italians must be smart, maybe smarter than you. Quote:
Da hell, brain fart? Quote:
...wisdom doesn't last very long... Quote:
Pasta. The single most processed food on the planet. You can stop eating it whenever you want, it's not one of those. Quote:
One name to put in your little black book, with a note "avoid". Quote:
See what I mean? Avoid avoid avoid. Quote:
Hormones like insulin? That thing that goes bonkers when you eat pasta? Yeah, we've messed enough with insulin, thank you. Quote:
Good carbs like the single most processed food on the planet - pasta? How is it even possible for a thing to be good for a while, then turn bad? What's the mechanism? Does it have a mind of its own, decides out of the blue to mess aroud with things after it's been only helpful for years? GTFO, idjit. Quote:
Unrelated to diet. About carbs being required to make the thyroid hormone - BS. Iodine. Quote:
You mean with the idiocy, the stupidity, the fallacy and the lies? Yep, totally agree, let's not get carried away with that. |
I'm actually surprised she was able to gag down the pasta, after 15 years LC. I know that personally, after not quite that long LC, I can't stand the tasteless taste of pasta or bread - might as well eat cardboard or styrofoam, for all the flavor it has.
Oh but it seems she wasn't truly LC all that time: Quote:
Considering that most sourdough breads are bigger than most regular breads (much broader loaves), that single thin slice of sourdough bread was probably enough to put her out of ketosis repeatedly during those 15 years. No wonder she was craving spaghetti. I'm not sure what the problem is with spiralized courgette (zucchini) - a lot of us have been doing that for years. If she wanted, she could have had bolognaise sauce over "squashta" every day of those 15 years - who needs pasta? Quote:
Honestly, I think she's more than a bit obsessive - acting like a single very small meal of pasta would suddenly make her gain to 400 stone (5,600 lbs), and that a single strand of pasta would turn her into the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. She's right in that for her, it was never about health, or keeping her blood sugar on an even keel, with that kind of grossly over exaggerated concept of how carb consumption affects the body. For her, it was always purely about weight. But notice that they also didn't eat these small servings of pasta daily - they had them once a week. If their weekly pasta indulgence didn't cause her to crave more and more carbs on a daily basis, then she's not someone who could never control her carb consumption to begin with. Give her some time though - my guess is that the weekly pasta mini-meal will eventually give way to eating the kids' leftover fries, sandwiches on thick slices of bread, 3 different kinds of potatoes at a meal (I've been to England - yes, they often serve potatoes prepared 3 different ways at a single meal!), and pizza. |
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If you go to somebody for comfort, and they make you feel sad instead of better, you might want to rethink the relationship. What's the point? Sometimes people say to me, why don't you have just a couple potato chips, a tiny slice of pie, toast one marshmallow? What's the point? I don't want a couple potato chips, when I do want them, I want a pound. |
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A single chocolate chip cookie is just a tease. All the cookies in the cookie jar are never enough. This thread seems to be melding with the thread about carb addiction. One cookie/donut/potato chip is too many, and the entire bag/box full is never enough - if that isn't a sign of an addiction, I don't know what is. Only another heroin addict (or a drug pusher) would try to convince a clean and sober heroin addict that it won't hurt to have just tiny hit of heroin. |
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I completely agree. I was at a family get-together this summer, and I got a bag of white cheddar popcorn, which I just love, as a snacky thing since I wanted a drink and won't do it on an empty stomach, and it had been years since so indulging. And it tasted like someone had sprinkled white cheddar on those styrofoam packing peanuts! No cravings for it :) And I can have all the white cheddar I wish in my morning eggs. Quote:
Look at the many many people on this very forum who talk about carbing up, controlled cheats, just-this-once and on and on. Some of them come crawling back... and some of them never come back. I know myself how easy that slide can be. I also love a "posh carbonara" which is great over raw spinach or cooked broccoli :lol: |
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This quote from the article alone gives me a clue as to what her life style and values are, at least around food. I don't find any of that appealing. I like that food is not a major source of entertainment for me. Sure I like it to taste good but as long as it is minimally palatable it's ok with me. I don't need food to be a peak experience for me. I'm just trying to nourish my body. Jean |
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The funny thing is, for me, the low carb food is vastly more palatable. When I am hungry and tuck into a nice rib-eye with blue cheese dressing and buttered broccoli I am thrilled. This is so tasty! Much more so than the food I ate before. I realized the "tastiness" I was craving was in the sauce, not the grain product I put it on. Putting the sauce on vegetables or eggs is more satisfying, not less. This lady getting thrilled about pasta? That's the dopamine hitting her brain... not the exquisiteness of what is, after all, wallpaper paste. |
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Potato chips, bread of any kind, pasta, rice - those are all things I don't dare take a bite of because I know it won't end with one bite. I still overeat - I know I have food-related problems that I'm working on - but I don't overeat on starchy carbs as I don't eat even one bite. I can still make a pig of myself with meat, cheese, and/or nuts. Too much protein drives up my bg, but not as much as a loaf of bread or a family-size bag of potato chips would. |
Counterpoint to her pasta and taters.
Saturday, we had a nice dinner for four at my mom's. Steak, salad, mushrooms and wine. Simple and boring? You bet, but oh so wonderfully tasty. Steak and mushrooms cooked in (lots for the shrooms, my very own simplest of recipes, just brilliant if I say so myself)) butter in the pan. A bit of cumin (don't know the English name, is it curcuma or something like that?) and salt for the mushrooms, just salt for the steak. Salad with lots of avocados, I think Boston lettuce, a somewhat mild but tangy vinaigrette, and bits of some kind of sausage. The steaks of course, seared rare. The wine was some Pinot Noir, I think, nothing too fancy, just right. Sounds good so far? Yeah, then for desert, mom decided to get the gingerbread man cookies out. Couldn't really resist, it was just there if you know what I mean. One of us was a kid and mom being mom, really likes to do that kind of thing. Oh yeah, forgot, I was too hungry to wait, so I scarfed down a pack of cracker barrel before we started cooking, maybe 200g or something, hadn't eaten all day you see. And a glass of milk with the cookies, like anything else was gonna happen with that, doh. So, you wanna eat LC (minus the cookies, of course)? You want taste? You want a joyful meal? This is it. I promise. |
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