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Old Tue, Nov-19-02, 10:14
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Plan: Curves starting 13/4/04
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Hi Anne
She is gorgeous I may just possibly visit the fairy makers....
I know I feel quite guilty for not visiting my journal for ages!
New years resolution is to do this....time time and time oh and 2 kids who monopolise the pc!!! - I get 10 mins here and there and boy do they moan tee hee
take care
Fi
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Old Tue, Nov-19-02, 13:15
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Plan: Atkins & Schwarzbein
Stats: 234/157/90 Female 4' 6"
BF:56.4%/38.8%/23.9%
Progress: 53%
Location: Orpington, UK
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Another member asked me what I had said in my email to ITV. So, for those who are interested.

I, like many other viewers, found this programme very unbalanced. Whilst there was truth in what was said, some of it was taken out of context whilst others omitted basic facts.

I had not heard of Atkins before July 2001, but I now see it as my saviour. I am 47 and was 10 stone over weight. I got that way by yo-yo dieting and for over 10 years being on a very low fat diet. Low-fat is not a healthy lifestyle for many and deprives the body of the essential fats it needs. Now, 15 months later I have lost 3 stone and expect to eat this way for the rest of my life. I now eat 50 g of carbs a day and include fruit with that. Beside the weight loss, the other benefits are that I need less sleep, I am more alert, and am fitter than I have been for many years.

The programme omitted to say that the 20 g of carbs in induction should come from vegetables, they were totally ignored and almost put in the same category as fruit. Whilst you can nominally eat as much meat and fat as you like your body will not allow you to do so endlessly. It is this increase in protein which triggers an apparent loss off appetite, meaning that you eat less. The 20 g is just for induction and there were no indication that you should then increase your carb level each week until you do not loose weight.

The Atkins diet is based on UK research, it is interesting that that fact has completely been ignored.

Whilst in the US there is a major industry in low carb products, these are only available online in the UK . Look at the amount of Weight Watchers and other low calorie, low fat products in our stores. One thing that Atkins and the other low carb lifestyles promote is a return to traditional eating using fresh produce. This is of course has a negative effect for the food industry, particularly the sugar industry. So, of course they would be against this lifestyle.

Obesity is a major problem within the UK. There are many deaths each year related to obesity and the increase in type II diabetes is staggering. The low carb lifestyle, as it controls your insulin levels, will prevent you getting diabetes far more so than cutting out saturated fats, as the programme implied. For anyone who has put on weight around their stomach, then they have done this because they have eaten too many carbohydrates for their body to use effectively and hence the storage as fat.

I would be interested to know what the woman who had had such negative symptoms suffered from. My blood profile is brilliant and my cholesterol and triglyceride levels are very good. If saturated fats were a problem then these results would not be as good.

I noted that your reporter liberally added salt to his breakfast on the Atkins cruise. There is no need to add salt, we are encouraged not to, adding salt only increases water retention. Not a good sign, unless it was LoSalt (potassium chloride).

There are usually some negative symptoms experienced when you change to a low carb way of life, your body needs time to change however, drinking sufficient water and not totally cutting out caffeine, means that these symptoms quickly pass. There was no indication that you need to drink plenty of water to maintain your body fluids and process the food that you eat. It was interesting that both 'guinea pigs' did not like what they did during induction, but were very pleased with the results! Most people do not particularly like going on a diet, but I love this lifestyle and do not miss pasta, potatoes, bread, etc. All diets restrict sugar in the form of sweets, cakes and biscuits. In no way do I feel deprived and I eat a much wider range of protein and vegetables than I did before.

I found the information on your body needing around 100g carbs a day to survive very helpful. So we do not need the 200-300 g carbs that most of us eat. Therefore a lower carbohydrate intake for almost everyone one would be a good idea!! It was not said that our bodies can also turn protein into sugars and so we do have a second source. If we don't eat protein either then our body attacks our muscles to get the necessary sugar.

The information on too much saturated fat was not in context. The problems outlined may occur when combined with carbohydrates, but tend not to be the case when very low levels of carbohydrates are eaten. There may be no long term studies on low carbing, only the people who have eaten that way for the past 30 years. In the same way there are no good studies on low fat lifestyles. In Dr Atkins book he does indicate that you might want to reduce the level of saturated fats and increase the level of mono-unsaturated fats in what you eat, so again, the full story was not told.

I would encourage readers interested in the low carbohydrate way of life, because that is what it is, not just a quick fix diet, to join one of the online forums on the topic for information and advice. I belong to http://forum.lowcarber.org where I am now a mentor.

Perhaps you would consider having a second programme to build on the first and include real people who have experienced this way of life for long periods of time. As a scare mongering programme I would give it 7 out of 10.


I know it was read at 8 45 pm last night, wonder if they will update their website with some more of the comments they have received?
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Old Wed, Nov-20-02, 03:38
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From somthing bad comes some good. I have beet dieting all my life infact since a foetus probably!!! I can never lose it effectively...

My husband had been telling me that his colleagues at work were on a high protein diet and I thought nah... not for me... however on Friday we watched the tv program togther and at the end of it I was on the internet and found the Dr Atkins website and I though OK lets give this a try.. it is my fifth day on Dr Atkins and I have 3 kilos lighter.... much happier and totally in control. There was a time when I could not see hot boiled rice where I had to eat some... yesterday I cooked it for my husband and did not even have the desire to eat one grain... as for cakes.... and puddings... nah.... I am waiting till the two week induction is over the eat a tiny bit of sugar free jelly but the desire for that too is fast diminishing...

All I can say is thanks to the program for showing me the way to get ahead and beat the bulge.

Tina
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Old Wed, Nov-20-02, 08:39
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Dear Little Ann

What a fab email you sent.

Thanks.
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Old Wed, Nov-20-02, 09:56
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Plan: atkins/protein power 1st
Stats: 269/278/210 Male 5 feet 10 ins.
BF:33%/30%/ ?
Progress: -15%
Location: Hertfordshire
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There is a very good reply by Stephen Fry. Balanced and sensible. The complete opposite of the programme.

Even my mother rang me after the programme and said " I am afraid I dissapprove strongly of the diet, it said you must not eat fruit" she urged me to stop.

I had to explain that it was only in the beginning and I have been low carbing for a year and added the lower carb fruits back into my diet. She knows that I am healthy and fit but the power of television is such that.....etc. etc.

The programme said that Atkins is the most popular diet in this country based on the book sales. And then did not give any of the essence of the book. Atkins is not the quick fix diet that they suggest.

It was a disgrace that the presenter had the nerve to say that Dr. Atkins himself was not a good advert for the diet because he looked overweight. Who knows what Atkins said off camera or what is on the cutting room floor. The point of interviewing him was not to enquire of the truth but to point the finger of commercialism at Atkins as if he was a wild west potion salesman.

This was journalism at its worst. ITV has let itself down. But the worst thing is that it is only us that know it. We are the ones that have read the books and done the research. My mother thought it a very good programme!

I was saddened that Trevor Mcdonald, who I respect, got to present this one-sided, pitiful production.

What we need is a programme unmasking the complete waste of time and damage that the fat lobby (funded by the big sugar corporations) has done to the health of the western world.
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Old Thu, Nov-21-02, 02:43
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Plan: Atkins & Schwarzbein
Stats: 234/157/90 Female 4' 6"
BF:56.4%/38.8%/23.9%
Progress: 53%
Location: Orpington, UK
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What we need is a programme unmasking the complete waste of time and damage that the fat lobby (funded by the big sugar corporations) has done to the health of the western world.


Here, Here Rustpot.
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Old Mon, Nov-25-02, 12:30
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I too was unhappy to hear about the Tonight show I have emailed them and they have posted part of my email on the webpage. I am a scot, living in the Middle East and did not see the programme, but I read about it and heard about it from my mother who is still in Scotland.

It's funny how they did not print the part of my email that said "shame on you ITV for airing a programme without the proper and balanced information" Oh well, the joys of cut and pasting.. I would say censoring, but I HOPE that only goes on in this part of the world.

I think Trevor should get a few of the very happy, healthy, long term low carb eaters on his show and we can soon turn that negative show into something positive that everyone who has struggled with their weight for any length of time, will want to do.

Thank goodness for forums like these, the support and information are invaluable.

Thanks everyone!



Karen
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Old Thu, Dec-05-02, 11:46
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Plan: atkins
Stats: 154/147/130
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Progress: 29%
Location: co. Durham uk
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hi Im new so bear with me.
Its thanks I give to the tonight programme! As soon as I started watching the video diaries of the 2 guinea pigs I realized they were on a caffeine come down. It had nothing to do with the food they were eating but the lack of 10 cups of coffee a day!!
I gave up caffiene 3 months ago and it was the worst 2 weeks of my life!
so after 3years of low fat dieting hese last 2 and a half weeks have been heaven.
Ive stayed on induction because I lost 7lbs the first week and nothing the next I find it really easy to stick to at the moment because these are all the foods I have not been permitted for the last 3 years.
I do find it hard to drink lots of water. does any one have any tips to drink so much
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Old Thu, Dec-05-02, 14:08
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Plan: protein power
Stats: 168.8/157.9/130 Male 5 foot 2 inches
BF:33.1/27/20
Progress: 28%
Location: London
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The bottom line about that silly program is that they totally, but totally missed the point about low carbing and as expected homed in on the cholesterol story .

I agree with you all that it was very badly researched but isnt this a taste of just how the media can hype up or down any topic it wishes . We see this all the time in politics , economics , crime etc ,etc .

The answer is that we should carefully select what we believe to be true in the popular press .
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Old Thu, Dec-05-02, 14:26
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Here Here Rob!! I loved what you said about the Media, and funnily enough I see that so much more clearly since I have lived in the Middle East in the Gulf for the last 8 years. I know that everyone from America to UK is totally panicking regarding the Iraqi crisis and also the situation between Israel and Palestine. I live here in Qatar and have a very peaceful, happy existence, the people are pleasant and friendly and are not all fundamentalist radical/terrorists - yet they are all muslims!!!! Shame the media paints bad pictures. I wonder how we would feel if we were all labelled as fundamentalist radical christians like - for example - the KKK.

This world is a mess because of lots of things - but the Media has a HUGE portion of it to answer for.

Okay time to get off my soap box and back to the wonderful low carbing way of life that makes me feel so healthy, happy and free of cravings!


CIAO

Karen
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