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Old Thu, Aug-12-21, 09:27
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Originally Posted by JEY100
A new interview with Dr. Ted Naiman lead me to a DietDoctor video about this NIH study. With the sensational article title of "Is the carbohydrate-insulin model of obesity dead?" the controversy rages on. I thought this discussion a balanced view about what matters to weight loss.

After a year of eating way more carbs than I did for the past decade, I also find "satiety per calorie", whether through more protein, more fiberous vegetables and more micronutrients, has been the key to my weight loss.

Thread on Dr. Naiman's The P:E Diet and a short weight loss summary at

After thinking about this and the Naiman agreement with the recent Kevin Hall findings, I'm baffled about the comments regarding the "carbohydrate-insulin" model. Yes, there are additional, subtle points of how this mechanism works, and we've found that favoring healthy, nutrient-dense protein does a few things, not the least of which makes people satiated after eating and builds healthy bodies. However, all this thumping about carbohydrate-insulin derangement serves to confuse further that when consuming unhealthy amounts & types of carbs combined with fats (especially seed oils and those manufactured substances today called "healthy" fats) causes weight gain and fat mass increase. The "low-carb," carbohydrate-insulin model is hardly dead. It's simply been redefined where an increased protein:energy ratio combined with consumption of healthy micronutrients becomes most desirable for improved health and eating control.

People can call it what they want, but my point is it's still carb control (eating healthy carbs with micronutrients), protein emphasis (nutrient dense), and limited healthy fats. Full bore keto emphasizing fats for satiety is misguided, but I can still manage a low-carb, keto WOE and keep my P:E where it needs to be.
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