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Old Thu, Apr-11-19, 10:40
Chef Ron Chef Ron is offline
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Plan: Keto
Stats: 293.6/267.4/180 Male 5' 11"
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I am not giving up, that's for sure. I will avoid nuts today, just to be safe and stick to the veggies and meat. And lots of water.
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Old Thu, Apr-11-19, 10:46
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Plan: atkins
Stats: 247/217/153 Female 5'8"
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I chart my weight by the week. Because up and down is NORMAL. UP UP UP is a heads up something is off but otherwise, I look at the weekly average and like to see it going down down down.

Maybe cut back on the pasta sauce--- ???? DOnt need to eliminate but perhaps less often, and less of it.

THis is a learning process-- learn how YOUR body reacts to foods.
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Old Thu, Apr-11-19, 11:06
Chef Ron Chef Ron is offline
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Plan: Keto
Stats: 293.6/267.4/180 Male 5' 11"
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Thanks Ms. Arielle,

I didn't eat any pasta sauce yesterday, BUT I had some pistachios. And I've just found out that they are almost as bad as cashews. So, no nuts for a while for me, I can live without them anyways. I'll try to make this as simple as possible and just stick with the veggies and meats, no pasta sauce, no nuts. That way I won't make a mistake and eat some hidden carbs. And I've just created a chart for myself so I will see if I am moving in the right direction after a few weeks.
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Old Thu, Apr-11-19, 11:21
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Plan: Ketogenic (LCHFKD)
Stats: 227/186/185 Male 6' 0"
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Progress: 98%
Location: Herndon, VA
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Donít worry about it. This is not a linear process, it is an up and down one.

This can be handled one of two ways. I skipped weighing myself entirely, and relied on pants. My hips is where most of my fat shows up, anyway; if you are an apple-shape who is a male, the belly is going to show the most change, likely.

I did the same thing, ignored the scale and recognized the pleasant result of how my clothes fit or not over time. When I had to replace my pants for those with a smaller waist, it was a good thing. Yes, maybe once a month or so, I'd jump on the scale, but as WereBear notes, weight loss is hardly linear, and if you've increased water or any liquid consumption, you're going to be weighing that as well. This is a process that moves forward and then has plateaus, and then moves forward again and then has plateaus. Staying doggedly consistent works over time.
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Old Thu, Apr-11-19, 11:29
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Plan: Epi-Paleo/IF
Stats: 220/140/150 Female 67
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Progress: 114%
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Also of note is that the more weight you have to lose, the faster it usually comes off. Expect to see things slooooooow dooooooown the closer one gets to goal.

At this point I am at the 1 pound a month stage. Weighing myself every day would be most discouraging
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Old Fri, Apr-12-19, 10:13
Chef Ron Chef Ron is offline
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Plan: Keto
Stats: 293.6/267.4/180 Male 5' 11"
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Happy to report that I am still here, still going strong and 2 lbs down this morning. So, that's a good start before my weekend begins. Now off to the gym and then I can eat my low carb lunch (cabbage and beef). Salmon and broccoli and green beans for supper tonight. Thank you all for your support and have a wonderful weekend!
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Old Fri, Apr-12-19, 10:16
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Plan: Keto
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Before I forget, how much cream cheese and cheese in general do you guys consume? I love cream cheese on sliced yellow peppers and I love cheese in general, but I am avoiding it now cause I'm not sure how much are we allowed to eat to stay in ketosis. Any advice? OK, gym time now for real....
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Old Fri, Apr-12-19, 15:00
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Plan: Banting
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I go through plenty of cheese myself, probably about a pound a week. It's one of the few foods that I used to enjoy from my pre-LC days that I was relieved to discover that I could actually continue to eat!

That's just me, though. Some people have genuine issues with dairy that require them to cut it out. I think there's a bit of scope for individual variation when it comes to cheese. If you're comfortable eating it, then go for it. But if you find the scales get stuck at some point, you could always consider cutting it out again just to see what happens.
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Old Fri, Apr-12-19, 15:29
Chef Ron Chef Ron is offline
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Plan: Keto
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I go through plenty of cheese myself, probably about a pound a week. It's one of the few foods that I used to enjoy from my pre-LC days that I was relieved to discover that I could actually continue to eat!

That's just me, though. Some people have genuine issues with dairy that require them to cut it out. I think there's a bit of scope for individual variation when it comes to cheese. If you're comfortable eating it, then go for it. But if you find the scales get stuck at some point, you could always consider cutting it out again just to see what happens.


That's great! OK, I'll try and see how it goes. Thanks!
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Old Fri, Apr-12-19, 18:14
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Plan: atkins
Stats: 247/217/153 Female 5'8"
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Atkins limits cheese to 3 oz perday. But as Grav said, your milaleage may vary. Both cream cheese and sour cream or greek yogurt work well with vegies.

Enjoy!
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Old Sat, Apr-13-19, 06:18
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Plan: general lc
Stats: 214/146/130 Female 5'4"
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Cheese is one of those things I add and subtract from my diet. I don't find that it knocks me out of ketosis, but it does cause me to retain some water weight (inflammation)? Right now, I'm eating at least two cheeseburgers a day, but having once been a compulsive daily weigher, I know I will go down a quick two or three pounds once I cut the cheese back out.

These days I only get on the scale for the monthly weigh in thread. Low carb has become more about my health than anything else. So why am I still eating cheese if it's probably causing me inflammation? Good question! Actually I know the answer - if it weren't the scale, I'm not sure I'd know that the cheese was doing anything negative to me.
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Old Sat, Apr-13-19, 07:13
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Plan: Epi-Paleo/IF
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I eliminated dairy for years due to a misdiagnosis, and when I went on Atkins I added it back in with no issue. I now, like with bacon during my low fat phase in the 90's, have a lot to catch up on!

I love cream cheese in an omelette, with berries or cherries. It's a low carb danish. I go for high fat, grassfed, goat, or at least organic as much as I can.

Life is too short to eat mediocre cheese
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Old Sat, Apr-13-19, 09:31
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Plan: Ketogenic (LCHFKD)
Stats: 227/186/185 Male 6' 0"
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Progress: 98%
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My personal n=1 with dairy or cheese: I eliminated all dairy for 45 days earlier this year, and I had some very good results. I don't consume a wide range of dairy products, so before the elimination I was eating a good amount of cheese, heavy cream, and the very occasional plain Greek yogurt. After the elimination experiment and adding things back one at a time, I realized that I'm sensitive to certain types of cheese, and wouldn't you know it, the sharpest ones that I like the most were having the most negative impact. Cheeses such as blue or sharp cheddar were the culprits.

Today, I have heavy cream in my coffee every day without issue, and this makes sense as it has very little dairy protein. I can eat mild provolone, but I have also cut back dramatically on the amount of cheese consumption to my benefit. To Grav's point, I'm one who has to limit and be selective about dairy consumption, so I manage it accordingly. The food type elimination approach is a great way to discover how you react, and it's very simple to do by eliminating everything in a food group, say all dairy, for at least 30 days to give you plenty of time to reset. Then slowly add one type of the food group back to identify how you respond. As you continue your WOE self discovery, this is a good way to isolate and identify something that could be an issue.
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Old Wed, Apr-17-19, 05:34
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Plan: 100g of carbs or less
Stats: 129.6/129.4/130 Female 66
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And I am a broccoli junkie, so I could literary eat broccoli in every meal. Any suggestions or ideas are very much appreciated.


Ha, I thought I was the only one with an obsession with broccoli Love it so much-have to have it in some form every single day
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Old Wed, Apr-17-19, 06:54
Chef Ron Chef Ron is offline
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Plan: Keto
Stats: 293.6/267.4/180 Male 5' 11"
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Progress: 23%
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Ha, I thought I was the only one with an obsession with broccoli Love it so much-have to have it in some form every single day


Nah, broccoli is the best thing ever. It's funny when I tell people how much I love broccoli and they look at me like they're thinking "yeah, right, cause you got so big from eating broccoli" lol

I went to the US the other day (I live in Canada, Ottawa area) and on my way back stopped at the store in Albany, NY and they had broccoli on sale (the price in Canada was double the price in Albany at that point), so I bought about 8 lbs of broccoli. When I was crossing the border, they asked me if I purchased anything in the States, and I said "nothing but 8 lbs of broccoli!", and showed them the bags at the back seat. The officer probably thought that I was nuts LOL
He just gave me my passport back and shook his head.

BTW happy to report that I am now 7 lbs down since last Monday (9 days)

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