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Old Wed, Aug-22-18, 14:44
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Cronometer gives my standard saturated fat intake at 130 grams a day. I guess I could bring that up a little by replacing butter with coconut oil, but my eggs wouldn't taste as good.

This eating healthy is hard. So many things to consider.
I cook my eggs in a mixture of coconut oil and butter.
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Old Thu, Aug-23-18, 07:07
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We should be careful not to turn this into an anti-science thread. Anti-bad-science definitely. But we will win this war only with good science.
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Old Thu, Aug-23-18, 09:00
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As far as I can see, that is exactly the point: anti-bad science.
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Old Thu, Aug-23-18, 09:04
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Here's Max Lugavere's take on it:

https://www.facebook.com/MaxLugaver...85589765080776/

Recent headlines have been floating around suggesting that coconut oil isn't (and has never been) healthy. Here's my take.

Please share to help combat the hysteria!
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Old Thu, Aug-23-18, 09:19
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Just watched the Dr Eades new video theorizing why saturated fats are better options than the unsaturated one. Fats rated with the F/N ratio to look at its ability to create localized Insulin Resistance. VERY ENLIGHTENING.

Coconut oil is 90% saturated fat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIRurLnQ8oo

(courtesy of s9)
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Old Thu, Aug-23-18, 17:10
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And . . . . the lines of the nutrition wars have been drawn. Sounds like the backlash is real and challenging voices are becoming active. This should be interesting . . .


The real enemy is the gmo factory farmed food industrial complex. We're all squarely on the side of health, as Dave asprey says. Ray peat has a good page on coconut oil and saturated fat.

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/coconut-oil.shtml
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Old Thu, Aug-23-18, 17:24
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Thanks m1 for posting the link. This kinds blew me away:

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Immunosuppression was observed in patients who were being "nourished" by intravenous emulsions of "essential fatty acids," and as a result coconut oil is used as the basis for intravenous fat feeding, except in organ-transplant patients. For those patients, emulsions of unsaturated oils are used specifically for their immunosuppressive effects.
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Old Sat, Aug-25-18, 20:57
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This guy says coconut oil is poison. He's pretty convincing so I'm reconsidering my intake of this stuff. Blech!!!

Coconut Oil Kills - Ultra Spiritual Life episode 66

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_j-tBJ3Kss
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Old Sat, Aug-25-18, 22:17
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ROFL---OMG, I busted a gut!!!!
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Old Sun, Aug-26-18, 00:13
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DR MICHAEL MOSLEY: You'd be coconuts not to go low carb

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...t-low-carb.html
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Old Sun, Aug-26-18, 03:56
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In a health related RSS feed this morning...an article from Food Network on Foods that Cause Inflammation. OK, let's see what a popular food as entertainment media source says about this.

Started off with white bread and regular soda, good so far. But then added french fries and hotdogs, both for their link between saturated fat, inflammation that leads right directly to heart disease. Then ice cream...will we Ever kill the ARTERY CLOGGING SATURATED FAT (as one word) advice?!

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Ice Cream
Although full fat dairy can fit into a healthy eating pattern, too much of it can backfire on the body. Full fat ice cream is brimming with artery clogging saturated fat, which is associated with inflammation.


Almost funnier, it was followed by Lard, again BRIMMING with the dreaded SATURATED fat. Really? Who knew? Says it is enjoying something of a revival in foodie world, coming back in style so we needed a warning about it. They may previously have warned about coconut oil but now unsuspecting foodies need to be warned that lard is BRIMMING with saturated fat.

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Lard Pig fat may be back in style, but it’s also brimming with saturated fat and can lead to inflammation-related disease like heart disease. If you’re jonsing for lard, enjoy it on special occasions but steer clear of consuming it regularly.


I will never get back the time wasted clicking through a slideshow (Hate articles written in slideshows, picture book level!) but a reinforcement never to take Health advice from an RD who works for the food pushing industry.

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Old Sun, Aug-26-18, 06:43
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Sorry your time was wasted Janet. Clearly we have our work cut out for us.
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Old Sun, Aug-26-18, 08:19
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Originally Posted by thud123
This guy says coconut oil is poison. He's pretty convincing so I'm reconsidering my intake of this stuff. Blech!!!

Coconut Oil Kills - Ultra Spiritual Life episode 66

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_j-tBJ3Kss

Love the skydiving instructor analogy, brilliant!
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Old Mon, Aug-27-18, 02:44
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JP made that video over a year ago. Bad health advice from Harvard, AHA and the government is a gift that keeps on giving for his satire.
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Old Mon, Aug-27-18, 08:27
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I feel like anybody making these claims should just go ahead and try eating a majority of poly's, and come back and apologize when they feel so nauseous they want to die!
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