Active Low-Carber Forums
Atkins diet and low carb discussion provided free for information only, not as medical advice.
Home Plans Tips Recipes Tools Stories Studies Products
Active Low-Carber Forums
A sugar-free zone


Welcome to the Active Low-Carber Forums.
Support for Atkins diet, Protein Power, Neanderthin (Paleo Diet), CAD/CALP, Dr. Bernstein Diabetes Solution and any other healthy low-carb diet or plan, all are welcome in our lowcarb community. Forget starvation and fad diets -- join the healthy eating crowd! You may register by clicking here, it's free!

Go Back   Active Low-Carber Forums > Main Low-Carb Diets Forums & Support > Low-Carb Studies & Research / Media Watch > Low-Carb War Zone
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members Calendar Mark Forums Read Search Gallery My P.L.A.N. Survey


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61   ^
Old Sun, Jun-24-18, 10:52
teaser's Avatar
teaser teaser is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 12,981
 
Plan: mostly milkfat
Stats: 190/152.4/154 Male 67inches
BF:
Progress: 104%
Location: Ontario
Default

"Sea salt and Himalayan salt are better because they contain trace minerals." Trace. Not biologically significant, just trace. Good source of salt, but so is table salt.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #62   ^
Old Sun, Jun-24-18, 11:36
BillyHW's Avatar
BillyHW BillyHW is offline
Registered Member
Posts: 378
 
Plan: Keto + IF
Stats: 260/300/165 Male 5' 6"
BF:
Progress: -42%
Location: Alberta, Canada
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by teaser
"Eat like your Grandmother." My grandmother had type II diabetes and was constantly trying to feed me butter tarts.

Which admittedly wasn't a hard sell.


LOL!
Reply With Quote
  #63   ^
Old Mon, Jun-25-18, 06:20
bkloots's Avatar
bkloots bkloots is offline
Posts: 9,133
 
Plan: Atkins/LCHF
Stats: 195/162/150 Female 63in
BF:
Progress: 73%
Location: Kansas City, MO
Default

Billy HW, please set up a Journal. We'd like to have a place to put our random responses to your entertaining/informative posts. We're off to Canada today, where the chief hazards are butter tarts and poutine.
Reply With Quote
  #64   ^
Old Mon, Jun-25-18, 06:32
Susky2's Avatar
Susky2 Susky2 is offline
Registered Member
Posts: 88
 
Plan: Keto-ish
Stats: 339/286/245 Male 76 inches
BF:
Progress: 56%
Location: Central PA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by teaser
"Sea salt and Himalayan salt are better because they contain trace minerals." Trace. Not biologically significant, just trace. Good source of salt, but so is table salt.


But it's pink! What if I just sit in a room full of the stuff?
Reply With Quote
  #65   ^
Old Mon, Jun-25-18, 06:35
Susky2's Avatar
Susky2 Susky2 is offline
Registered Member
Posts: 88
 
Plan: Keto-ish
Stats: 339/286/245 Male 76 inches
BF:
Progress: 56%
Location: Central PA
Default

"I just started eating keto, but I'm really craving <your choice>, and I can't stand it!"

I didn't really take the time to learn or understand how to improve my life in terms of what I eat. Maybe if I just think good things, I can still shovel in all the junk I've grown (heh) accustomed to...
Reply With Quote
  #66   ^
Old Mon, Jun-25-18, 07:09
BillyHW's Avatar
BillyHW BillyHW is offline
Registered Member
Posts: 378
 
Plan: Keto + IF
Stats: 260/300/165 Male 5' 6"
BF:
Progress: -42%
Location: Alberta, Canada
Default

I just started eating keto, but I'm really craving poutine, and I can't stand it!
Reply With Quote
  #67   ^
Old Mon, Jun-25-18, 22:25
BillyHW's Avatar
BillyHW BillyHW is offline
Registered Member
Posts: 378
 
Plan: Keto + IF
Stats: 260/300/165 Male 5' 6"
BF:
Progress: -42%
Location: Alberta, Canada
Default

"Non-GMO".

People have been genetically modifying food for eons. None of the fruits and vegetables you have today are "natural", and they don't bear the slightest resemblance to their wild ancestors. GMO Golden Rice is going to cure blindness in tens of thousands of Filipino children. Your body doesn't know or care if the proteins, fats, and carbohydrates came from a GMO, once it's broken down into its constituent parts like amino acids and glucose and fatty acids. I don't care about GMO, I care about all the freakin' sugar you are putting into EVERY, SINGLE, GODDAMN thing.

Last edited by BillyHW : Tue, Jun-26-18 at 12:14.
Reply With Quote
  #68   ^
Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 08:48
Susky2's Avatar
Susky2 Susky2 is offline
Registered Member
Posts: 88
 
Plan: Keto-ish
Stats: 339/286/245 Male 76 inches
BF:
Progress: 56%
Location: Central PA
Default

Good one...and I think we're on the same page with so much of this stuff!

"I buy Organic."

I want to get the best quality, but I'm easily manipulated by marketing hype. Consequently, I'm happily paying high prices for my food to feel better about myself.
Reply With Quote
  #69   ^
Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 09:00
Verbena Verbena is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 826
 
Plan: My own
Stats: 186/155/150 Female 5'4"
BF:
Progress: 86%
Location: SW PNW
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyHW
"Non-GMO".

People have been genetically modifying food for eons. None of the fruits and vegetables you have today are "natural", and then don't bear the slightest resemblance to their wild ancestors. GMO Golden Rice is going to cure blindness in tens of thousands of Filipino children. Your body doesn't know or care if the proteins, fats, and carbohydrates came from a GMO, once it's broken down into its constituent parts like amino acids and glucose and fatty acids. I don't care about GMO, I care about all the freakin' sugar you are putting into EVERY, SINGLE, GODDAMN thing.


This is a mistake that one sees often from those who "don't care" about GMO foods. Yes, man (and Nature herself) have been manipulating foods for eons; you are absolutely right about that. Manmade and natural selection have been working on getting vegetables & fruit larger & sweeter; animals have also been bred for different purposes through selective breeding, and natural accident. GMO, however, are modified by inserting the genes of foreign organisms into something completely different. Whether you "don't care" or not, the fact that fish genes (for example) are now part of some veggies is a fact. It is also a fact that such a thing could never happen in nature. Breeding a larger, sweeter tomato is relatively easy; you just choose the largest and the sweetest that you have to become the "parents" of the new seed. Breeding a Cockapoo is easy; you just choose a Cocker Spaniel & a Poodle to be the parents of the puppy. Getting wheat to be resistant to Round Up has to be done in a lab.
Reply With Quote
  #70   ^
Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 09:15
teaser's Avatar
teaser teaser is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 12,981
 
Plan: mostly milkfat
Stats: 190/152.4/154 Male 67inches
BF:
Progress: 104%
Location: Ontario
Default

You certainly could make a plant worse for humans through selective breeding if you chose the wrong traits to select for. I think that's true of gmo as well. If they bred or genetically modified a cauliflower to be super high in plant estrogens, I'd probably be a bit leery of that. I don't think it's the tool, it's the use of the tool.
Reply With Quote
  #71   ^
Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 10:21
Susky2's Avatar
Susky2 Susky2 is offline
Registered Member
Posts: 88
 
Plan: Keto-ish
Stats: 339/286/245 Male 76 inches
BF:
Progress: 56%
Location: Central PA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Verbena
Whether you "don't care" or not, the fact that fish genes (for example) are now part of some veggies is a fact.


It's also a mischaracterization. The fish-to-tomato gene process was done on an experimental basis, it didn't produce the desired effect, and the experiment was halted years ago. There is nobody shoving fish DNA into plants, and there are no such products commercially available today.

https://www.motherearthnews.com/rea...es-zmaz00amzgoe

Last edited by Susky2 : Tue, Jun-26-18 at 13:09. Reason: Fixed a typo
Reply With Quote
  #72   ^
Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 12:20
thud123's Avatar
thud123 thud123 is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 4,881
 
Plan: ~25NC/IF
Stats: 342.2/196/000 Male 182cm
BF:
Progress: 43%
Default

"X pounds gone - FOREVER!"
Reply With Quote
  #73   ^
Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 13:49
BillyHW's Avatar
BillyHW BillyHW is offline
Registered Member
Posts: 378
 
Plan: Keto + IF
Stats: 260/300/165 Male 5' 6"
BF:
Progress: -42%
Location: Alberta, Canada
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thud123
"X pounds gone - FOREVER!"


I think you've won the internet for today.
Reply With Quote
  #74   ^
Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 14:08
Calianna's Avatar
Calianna Calianna is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 1,104
 
Plan: Atkins-ish (hypoglycemia)
Stats: 000/000/000 Female 63
BF:
Progress: 50%
Default

It sure is expensive to eat healthy!

I work in a grocery store and hear this all the time, mostly from people who have switched from conventionally grown junk food to organically grown junk food.

Another one I hear from people who have tried LC -

It's too expensive to eat Low Carb - I can't afford to eat steak every day!

Funny how those people ignore the fact that there are many, many LC protein choices out there, all of which are less expensive than steak, and some of which cost as little as $1-$2/lb. (chicken, tuna, eggs, ground beef, etc)
Reply With Quote
  #75   ^
Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 14:18
Calianna's Avatar
Calianna Calianna is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 1,104
 
Plan: Atkins-ish (hypoglycemia)
Stats: 000/000/000 Female 63
BF:
Progress: 50%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thud123
"X pounds gone - FOREVER!"



Oh yes, I hear this so often, but as soon as they go off their diet, every pound comes back, usually bringing a few friends (more pounds) along with it.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:20.


Copyright © 2000-2018 Active Low-Carber Forums @ forum.lowcarber.org
Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.