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23 March, 2014

Why I've ditched statins for good

As experts clash over proposals that millions more of us take statins to prevent heart disease and stroke, a vascular surgeon explains why he feels better without them

By Haroun Gajraj


When I had a routine health check-up eight years ago, my cholesterol was so high that the laboratory thought there had been a mistake. I had 9.3 millimoles of cholesterol in every litre of blood — almost twice the recommended maximum.

It was quite a shock. The GP instantly prescribed statins, the cholesterol-lowering drugs that are supposed to prevent heart disease and strokes. For eight years, I faithfully popped my 20mg atorvastatin pills, without side effects. Then, one day last May, I stopped. It wasn’t a snap decision; after looking more closely at the research, I’d concluded that statins were not going to save me from a heart attack and that my cholesterol levels were all but irrelevant.

When I informed my GP of my decision three months later, I wasn’t entirely honest. Rather than say I was sceptical about the drugs, I told my doctor I’d quit the statins because they were causing pain in my arm.

He didn’t bat an eyelid. Evidence from the drug industry published this month – evidence I suspect was heavily reliant on data from the drug industry, as Dr James Le Fanu pointed out on these pages last week – may suggest that side effects are uncommon, but previous studies have found that one in five people on statins suffers adverse side effects, from muscle pain and diarrhoea to memory loss and blurred vision.

The GP simply suggested I try another brand of statin. The sooner the better, he said, given that I’d already been off my prescription for three months. “Hang on,” I said. “Could you give me a blood test first?” When the results came back, he was amazed that my total blood cholesterol was lower than when I’d been on statins. After three months without the pills, it was 5.4mmol/l (5.4 millimoles per litre of blood) compared with 5.7 mmol/l a year earlier.

The only major changes I’d made to my lifestyle since coming off statins were eliminating sugar (including alcohol and starchy foods such as bread) and eating more animal fat. Many experts now believe that sugar is emerging as a true villain in the heart-disease story; while after decades of demonisation, saturated fat has been acquitted of causing heart disease by a recent “meta” analysis of 70 studies by Cambridge University.

Typically, I was eating red meat three or four times a week and enjoying butter, full-fat milk and plenty of eggs. You would have thought that after three months on a diet so high in saturated fat, my cholesterol would have shot back up to pre-statin levels — but no, it came down and has stayed down seven months on. Not only that, but my levels of LDL (so-called bad cholesterol) were also lower than when I’d been on statins, and my ratio of HDL (so-called good cholesterol) to LDL was under four for the first time, an excellent sign, according to medical wisdom.

Not that I cared about any of this.

Yes, it was the statins that originally reduced my cholesterol levels so dramatically. But so what? I believe that high cholesterol has been a scapegoat for too long. Yes, it may, in some circumstances, be an indicator of heart disease but there is no evidence of a causal link. In my view, high total blood cholesterol or high LDL levels no more cause heart attacks than paramedics cause car crashes, even though they are present at the scene.

Just lowering cholesterol with drugs without sorting out the dietary and lifestyle factors that actually cause heart disease is nonsensical. Besides, there are plenty of other, more reliable indicators of heart-disease risk. What further astonished my GP was that on these indicators I was now apparently better off in other ways than when I’d been on statins. My blood pressure was down. For the first time in years, I was slimmer, especially around the belly. My triglycerides — a type of blood fat with a causal link to heart disease — were lower than at any time in the preceding eight years. My fasting blood glucose was at the optimum level, whereas a year earlier it had been too high. My total white blood count — a marker of inflammation — was lower.

My blood test for a marker called glycated haemoglobin (A1c), high levels of which are associated with heart disease and overall mortality, were bang on normal. Finally, my level of c-reactive protein (CRP) — a protein that rises in response to inflammation — was extremely low. So, biochemically, I was in excellent shape, better than when I’d been on the statins. “Have you taken up running?” asked my bemused GP.

No, I’d always run. For years, I’d exercised three times a week, eaten plenty of fish, refrained from smoking and tried to keep my stress levels low. The only thing I’d changed was my intake of sugar and animal fat.

That check-up was seven months ago and now, at 58, I’m not on a single tablet. My GP is happy. I feel better than I have in years and, at the same time, deeply concerned about proposals advising even wider use of statins.

Until 2005, statins were prescribed only to those with at least a 30 per cent or greater risk of having a heart attack within 10 years. This was then reduced to a 20 per cent risk. Now, draft NHS guidelines would have them dished out to those with just a 10 per cent risk — in other words, most men over the age of 50 and most women over the age of 60.

I am a vascular surgeon. Before founding a private clinic in Dorset 11 years ago, specialising in varicose veins, I worked in the NHS for 13 years. Back then, I didn’t question medical guidance on cholesterol, and thought statins were a wonder drug. And so they probably are, for men who have heart disease — not necessarily because they lower cholesterol, but because they may cut other risks such as the inflammation-marker CRP. Exercise, weight loss and omega 3 supplements also lower CRP.

But what about other groups — women, the elderly and people like me who have not been diagnosed with heart disease? The evidence that we will benefit from cholesterol-lowering drugs is ambiguous at best. The 2011 Hunt 2 study, one of the most recent and largest, followed 52,000 men and women in Norway aged 20-74 with no pre-existing heart disease, for 10 years.

The results for women were crystal clear. The lower a woman’s total cholesterol, the greater her risk of dying, either of heart disease or anything else, including cancer. This reflects findings in previous studies.

For men, high cholesterol was associated with heart disease and death from other causes. But so, too, was low cholesterol — below 5mmol/l. Again, this is only an association, not a causal link. A range of between 5mmol/l and 7mmol/l was the optimum level. Guess what? This is already the national average. In addition, numerous studies have linked high cholesterol levels with increased longevity in the elderly.

As for me, I have not been diagnosed with heart disease, and nobody in my family has had a heart attack. However, all four of my paternal uncles and my sister have diabetes. Research from Canada, published last year in the BMJ, has shown that statins raise the risk of diabetes, so that gives me little faith. The controversy over these drugs was reignited last week when Prof Sir Rory Collins from Oxford University warned that doctors’ hesitancy about prescribing them to those at risk could cost lives.

GPs are, by definition, generalists. They don’t have time to read and analyse data from every paper on every medical condition. Even so, in a recent survey by Pulse magazine, six in 10 GPs opposed the draft proposal to lower the risk level at which patients are prescribed statins. And 55 per cent said they would not take statins themselves or recommend them to a relative, based on the proposed new guidelines.

If that doesn’t speak volumes, I don’t know what does.
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Old Mon, Mar-24-14, 02:29
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23 March, 2014

Statins aren't a wonder drug

The claims made for statins are overblown. They are not a cure for most of the major diseases afflicting western civilisation

Malcolm Kendrick


Statins are the most widely prescribed drugs in medical history. They appear to have effortlessly conquered heart disease. If guidance proposed by Nice – the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence – is followed, 15 million people in the UK, most with no history of heart disease, could soon be taking them.

A recent study by researchers at Imperial College London made the claim that "statins have virtually no side effects, with users experiencing fewer adverse symptoms than if they had taken a placebo". This can only mean that statins make people feel better.

The Oxford University professor Rory Collins this weekend accused critics of the drugs of misleading the public . Increasingly, statins are being promoted for use in a vast range of diseases – as a potential cancer cure, a drug to prevent organ rejection, and as cures for Parkinson's disease and dementia . Now it is announced that statins reduce brain shrinkage in multiple sclerosis.

Can all of this be true? Is it possible for a drug to have no side-effects at all, and still cure most of the major diseases afflicting western civilisation? Well, of course not. However, through a vast marketing budget, and the fact that most doctors believed that cholesterol causes heart disease, statins have managed the ultimate product goal of becoming "good" and highly benevolent.

The pharmaceutical industry has created a monster. While statins are now almost entirely off-patent – so they make very little profit nowadays – at their peak they were a sales colossus. The marketing spend for Crestor alone was $1bn in the first year. Atorvastatin (Lipitor) at one point was making £13bn a year. Trial upon trial was set up and hyped. The marketing machine was relentless. Resistance was futile.

But the monster may be one that no one can now kill. The industry may come to rue its creation, once it has to sell the new generation, patent-protected, cholesterol-lowering agents waiting in the wings. How can you better a statin, these life-enhancing wonder drugs? It will be a tough task.

As for the recently hyped benefits in multiple sclerosis – are they real? It is difficult to say. Drugs can start out doing one thing, then be found to have many other effects. Aspirin started out life as a painkiller. It was then used in arthritis. It moved on to treat heart attacks, and next prevent heart attacks. Now it is used to prevent cancer.

However, drugs which appeared to have marvellous "test-tube" effects have often ended up badly when researchers looked for real clinical benefits. Flecainide suppressed dangerous heart arrhythmias, but was pulled from the market for killing thousands of people. Avandia reduced blood sugar levels, but was found to increase the risk of heart attacks . Ezetimibe is marvellous at cholesterol-reduction, but has no benefit on heart disease. So, will statins really benefit MS? I tend to doubt it.

It is clear that statins don't wipe people out in vast numbers. But they can have adverse effects, some of which are very severe, including a significant increase in type 2 diabetes. Cerivastatin was pulled from the market for causing a significant rise in rhabdomyolysis – disintegration of muscles, often followed by death. Atorvastatin, otherwise known as Lipitor – the statin top of Nice's list of recommendations – has never been demonstrated to increase life expectancy . So, taking the drug may change what is written on your death certificate, but it will not alter the date.

As a lady recently wrote on my blog: "I have MS and I was told over 15 years ago that statins are 'good for MS because they decrease inflammation'. Did not believe it then and don't believe it now. Of course between then and now I was put on statins for cholesterol. Stopped about five months ago and feel GREAT!"
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I regard statins as an absolutely diabolical drug, but one whose carnage has gone basically undetected because it causes illnesses (dementia, ALS,) which are little understood anyway, and more likely to happen to middle-aged and older people.

I've lost track of the times I've suggested someone's memory problems might be their statins, and told that the statins are "keeping me alive!" and that "everybody had memory troubles when they get older!"

Well, certainly not and maybe not.
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I've got a drawer full of statins. I need to take them to a hazardous waste dump.
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I've wondered about the possible connection between ALS and statins, knowing someone close who survived a heart attack only to now be dying of ALS. I think she was automatically, routinely put on statins despite no of evidence for female statin benefit and wonder if it's the cause of this horrible disease.
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I've wondered about the possible connection between ALS and statins, knowing someone close who survived a heart attack only to now be dying of ALS. I think she was automatically, routinely put on statins despite no of evidence for female statin benefit and wonder if it's the cause of this horrible disease.


I'm so sorry about that. There is growing concern that the rate of ALS is increasing, among younger people and those in rural areas, and statins have been implicated in certain people who have a genetic susceptibility.

This is the best article I know on the subject, by a NASA doctor:

http://www.spacedoc.com/ALS_statins.html

He warned about statins for years... he's now dealing with an ALS-type syndrome himself.
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There is growing concern that the rate of ALS is increasing, among younger people and those in rural areas, and statins have been implicated in certain people who have a genetic susceptibility.


I wonder why in rural areas? We're rural, and we know 2 men who died fairly recently of ALS. Rod was only about 55 and Mike was in his 70s. I know Rod wasn't taking a statin, but not sure about Mike. I'd be surprised if he had been.
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I wonder why in rural areas? We're rural, and we know 2 men who died fairly recently of ALS. Rod was only about 55 and Mike was in his 70s. I know Rod wasn't taking a statin, but not sure about Mike. I'd be surprised if he had been.


It's a tricky thing to pin down; a recent study in Britain showed a correspondence between urban residence and increased risk. Yet they admitted movement between the urban and rural areas made it difficult to figure out. Someone with movement difficulties can, prior to diagnosis, move to a place without so many stairs, as so many older people do.

How can we tease out such factors when, in 2011, half of men, ages to 65 to 74, and 39% of women, ages 75 and older were taking statins?

Rural areas can be so thinly populated that a "normal" distribution might stand out more for each incidence. Also, the fact that most Western industrialized nations have aging populations, and ALS incidence increases with age, has blurred possible contributing factors. However, it does tie in with the fact that increased cholesterol seems to be protective as we age, and this certainly impacts diseases of muscle metabolism and nerve involvement with access to important fatty acids.

This study shows a link:

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We read the article by Dupuis et al. with great interest. The authors caution clinicians treating ALS patients with dyslipidemia with lipid lowering drugs since dyslipidemia is a protective factor in ALS. [1]

Dyslipidemia is a protective factor in amyotrophic lateral sclerosis


What makes pointing fingers even trickier is that someone can be on a statin for a few months, drop it because of side effects, and develop a serious condition years later. Dr. Stuart Graveline, a medical doctor, researched this exhaustively after a short time on Lipitor caused him to suffer global amnesia. Years later, he had to suspend his website; because he developed ALS.

This article is the best one for explaining the mechanism that makes it all fit together:

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The drug manufacturers claim that the incidence of side effects [in statins] is relatively rare, but often side effects don't appear until after several months or even years into treatment. In many of these cases, it may not be obvious that the statin drug is the cause of the problem. This is especially true because these side effects can easily be attributed to increasing age. In fact, as I will show later, statin side effects can best be interpreted as an acceleration of the aging process.

Statins and Myoglobin: How Muscle Pain and Weakness Progress to Heart, Lung and Kidney Failure


Short version: statins disrupt so many vital processes at the cellular level it vastly increases our vulnerability to whatever our genetic susceptibilities might be. One thing for certain: it disrupts CoQ10, a vital enzyme all muscles need. Pharmaceutical companies know this so well they wanted to patent a statin combined with CoQ10, but got turned down. So then they shut up... because statins are like a gold mine. They could recommend CoQ10 to patients on statins, but they don't. Because they don't want to open that door.

And I'm a bit of a nut on the subject because my husband's darling aunt died of ovarian cancer. We found out, two years into unsuccessful treatment, that she was still on Lipitor, and convinced his aunt and uncle to drop it.

Her ability to walk, talk, and eat came back. She was able to have a decent last summer with her family.

So yeah. I think statins are evil.

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I read the subject line and opened it figuring all it really needed to say was "because I'm smart". Good stuff, the more people getting educated the better!
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Dr Briffa:

If statins are so safe, why won’t some researchers let us see their data?

http://www.drbriffa.com/2014/03/27/...see-their-data/
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According to a GP friend of mine, statins are lethal to pregnant women. They so easily could have created the same horror story as thalidomide

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I regard statins as an absolutely diabolical drug


It is best to avoid this sort of demonization. It is not useful data.

ps - I likely had a serious reaction to statins and would not take them. And I warn friends to think twice after they were put on them.
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And then there is this:


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30 March, 2014

A cup of Earl Grey 'as good as statins' at fighting heart disease, study finds

Scientists believe bergamot, a key ingredient in Earl Grey tea, can significantly lower cholesterol


Drinking Earl Grey tea could help guard against heart disease, it has emerged, after a study found that bergamot extract - a key ingredient in the hot drink - is just as effective as statins at controlling cholesterol.

Scientists believe bergamot, a fragrant Mediterranean citrus fruit which gives Early Grey tea its distinctive flavour, can significantly lower cholesterol.

They say it contains enzymes known as HMGF (hydroxy methyl glutaryl flavonones) which can attack proteins in the body known to cause heart disease.

The study found bergamot could even be as effective as statins, used to control cholesterol but which can have side effects in patients.

Researchers from Italy's University of Calabria, writing for the Journal of Functional Foods, used concentrations of HMGF on the proteins which cause heart disease and 'bad' cholesterol.



They then compared the effects with that of statins used to treat the same proteins and found the bergamot extract with HMGF worked just as well.

Not only did it reduce levels of LDL – so-called 'bad cholesterol' which leads to heart disease – but also increased HDL, which doctors call 'good cholesterol'.

Citrus foods have long been part of the famed 'Mediterranean diet' which has been hailed as one of the best ways to avoid heart disease – the biggest killer in the Western world.

The journal's report said: "High cholesterol is a common health concern for us all and often statins are given to help treat the condition.

"Extract from bergamot – most commonly used in Earl Grey tea – reduced total cholesterol, and LDL levels but there was an increase in HDL levels (good cholesterol).

"Therefore a daily supplement of bergamot fruit extract could be very effective for the treatment of high cholesterol."

Bergamot has long been used in traditional 'folk' medicines in the Mediterranean not only as a protection for the heart but also to treat wounds, inflammation and as an antiseptic.

The extracts have even been used in jams, ice cream and perfumes in the region, said the researchers.

A 2012 study by the University of Cantanzaro in Italy, found Bergamot could help you lose weight and protect against diabetes.

It also comes in tablet form as a food supplement and is known as BergaMet.

Given as a 1000mg tablet to be taken before meals it also reduced blood sugars by 22 per cent and raised 'good' cholesterol by 41 per cent.

BergaMet blocks the same enzyme responsible for cholesterol production as statins, but works at a different place on the enzyme, meaning it does not appear to have side effects in the muscles and the liver.

However, a new study has found that statins could have ohter medical benefits.

Researchers at Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical School in the US found the popular cholesterol-lowering drugs may offer added benefit for men with erectile dysfunction.

It is thought the statins may work to improve erectile function by helping blood vessels dilate properly and improving vascular blood flow to the penis, which is often restricted in men with erectile dysfunction.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/h...tudy-finds.html
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A 2012 study by the University of Cantanzaro in Italy, found Bergamot could help you lose weight and protect against diabetes.

It also comes in tablet form as a food supplement and is known as BergaMet.

Given as a 1000mg tablet to be taken before meals it also reduced blood sugars by 22 per cent and raised 'good' cholesterol by 41 per cent.

BergaMet blocks the same enzyme responsible for cholesterol production as statins, but works at a different place on the enzyme, meaning it does not appear to have side effects in the muscles and the liver.


That sounds interesting. And I like that it's in a tablet now. Years ago I tried the liquid extract for migraines. The taste was awful. It didn't seem to do anything for my migraines, either.
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Dr Briffa:

Cardiologist urges doctors to take patients’ wishes more into consideration

http://www.drbriffa.com/2014/04/04/...-consideration/
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