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Old Thu, Oct-03-13, 17:20
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Plan: One meal a day CAD style!
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Still doing my carb meal for breakfast and doing fine the rest of the day. I am super surprised because this is my third whack at it and it is true- you have to eat at least 7 ounces of protein/fat or you will get hungry later. I am losing faster than ever now eating my meal for breakfast! The Heller's say in The Stress Eating Cure book there should be NO plateaus in weight loss by eating carbs for breakfast so I will see if that is true or not! LOL

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Old Thu, Oct-03-13, 18:04
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Hi there,
I just found this thread. I am beginning the one meal a day CAD diet tomorrow. Just wanted to say "hi"
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Old Thu, Oct-03-13, 20:08
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Hi there,
I just found this thread. I am beginning the one meal a day CAD diet tomorrow. Just wanted to say "hi"


If you do it be sure to really eat. Not to binge but eat until you are really full. Enjoy it and get your regular calories in. If I skimp or not eat what I have a hankering for it makes the other 23 hours harder. It really does work and you will see it can easily be done. I know a gal who lost at least 80 pounds who still after 10 years or so is still doing only one meal a day! It becomes a way of life!

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Old Sat, Oct-05-13, 14:40
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Well my weekly avg so far has got me in the 212's which I almost can't believe! That will have my 3rd straight week loss in a row! We'll see the actual amount tomorrow but I am VERY pleased with this rate of loss as well as NO hunger! I seemed to have figured out how to get another 23 hours of fasting out of eating RM so early but it is finally working well for me!

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Old Sat, Oct-05-13, 18:33
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Ok updated my profile picture. Last one was a batch or 2 of homemade soap and one person ever got it right to guess what it was of! LOL

This pic is one of my favorites from about 7 years ago when I was in the same weight range of 200-212 lbs which is where I am at currently. My hair was dyed blonde and now is my natural brunette but you get the idea. I have always been broad shouldered, big busted, and wide hips. I am 5' 2.5". Pretty sexy huh? LOL

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Old Mon, Oct-14-13, 16:34
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Hi all. Still here. Up just 0.16 pounds this week but started TOM and usually GAIN over a pound so I am extactic with this amount! My weight all week was 212 "point something" and I don't think I ever had a single week where I had such minimal fluctuation of weight. Most weeks I would see a 2 pound difference in weights usually 2 or more times that week so to be 212.... each day was interesting. When I get caught up I will post my weekly avg list for all to see. I cannot believe this WOE it still blows my mind how well I eat and don't feel deprived and the weight just keeps slowly burning itself off!!!

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Old Mon, Oct-14-13, 19:00
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Plan: One meal a day CAD style!
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Ok everyone, here is my "almost" entire year's worth of daily, weekly, AND monthly averages. You can see I am losing only a bit more than a 1/4 of a pound a week the last few months on average but no matter how you analyze my averages, my weight is going down down down ever so slowly. I keep getting encouragement from a gal I know only via emails who has done one meal a day for years now that there will be way less saggy skin this way so I am happy about that. Plus I truely do not feel like I am on a diet! The one month where I actually saw a gain was during the vacation where I took 4 days off so that kind of messed with things and those 4 days took my body 16 to get back on track so I won't ever make that mistake again!!! That even includes me NOT recording those daily wts until I got back into the same zone I was in when I left so mega-yikes...

Week 1- 235 (235)

Week 2- 231 229 (230) -5 lbs

Week 3- 228 (228) -1 lb

Week 4- 227 226 (226.5) -1.5 lbs............................................... ....................(229.9)

Week 5- 225 227 228 225 (226.25) -0.25 lbs

Week 6- 225 225 225.5 225.5 225 224 223.5 (224.79) -1.5 lbs

Week 7- 224 224 224 224 224 223 (223.83) -1 lb

Week 8- 224 225 224.5 224.5 224 224 224 (224.28) + 0.5 lb.......................(224. -5.1 lbs

Week 9- 222 224 225 222.5 223 222.5 223.5 (223.21) -1 lb

Week 10- 223 222.5 221.5 221 223 223 222 (222.29) -0.9 lb

Week 11- 221 223 221 221 221 224 223 (222) -0.30 lb

Week 12- 223 222 223 222 223 223 222.5 (222.64) +0.6 lb.......................(222.5) -2.3 lbs

Week 13- 222 222 220 222 222 221 221 (221.43) -1.20 lbs

Week 14- 221.5 222 223 223 221.5 222 218 (221.57) +0.14 lb

Week 15- 220 221 223 221 221 221.5 222.5 (221.43) -0.14 lb

Week 16- 224 221 X 221.5 223 223 223 (222.58) +1.15 lbs......................(221. -0.7 lbs

Week 17- 220 221 221 221 221 220 220 (220.57) -2 lbs

Week 18- 220 220 220.5 220 220 220 219.5 (220) -0.57 lb

Week 19- 220 218 219 218.5 218.5 218.5 217.5 (218.57) -1.43

Week 20- 218.5 219.5 220 220 220 220 220 (219.7) +1.10......................(219.71) -2.09 lbs

Week 21- 218.5 218.5 218.5 218.5 217.5 217.5 218 (218.14) -1.56

Week 22- 219.5 219.5 220 220 219.5 218.5 218.5 (219.36) +1.22

Week 23- 216 215.5 217 217.5 216.5 215 215 (216.07) -3.29

Week 24- 215.5 X X 217 215.8 216.8 217.4 (216.5) +0.43......................(217.51 lbs) -2.2 lbs

Week 25- 215.5 217 216 217 217.6 217.8 215.8 (216.67) +0.17

Week 26- 218.2 X 219 217.8 219.2 218.2 X (218.5) +1.81

Week 27- 217 216.6 216 216.6 217 217.8 219 (217.14) -1.36

Week 28- 217.6 217 216.6 216.6 217 217.6 217 (217.06) -0.08.............(217.34) -0.2 lbs

Week 29- 216.2 216.8 214.6 215.8 215.8 216.2 216.2 (215.9) -1.12

Week 30- 215.4 214.8 213 213.6 215 218.5 215.1 (215.1) -0.8

Week 31- 214 216.2 215.4 214.8 214.4 214.8 215.8 (215.06) -0.04

Week 32- 217 216.6 216.2 216.6 216.6 216.2 217.4 (216.7) +1.6...........(215.69) -1.63

Week 33- 216 214.4 215.6 216.2 216.2 X 215.4 (215.6) -1.1

Week 34- 215.6 216.2 214.8 216.2 215.2 214.8 216.4 (215.6) -0

Week 35- 217 X 215.8 215.8 216 215 214.6 (215.7) +0.1

Week 36- 215.4 215.6 216 216.8 215.2 215.4 213.8 (215.5) -0.24..........(215.6) -0.09

Week 37- 216.8 215.4 X X X X X Vacation....

Week 38- X X X X X X X Vactaion.....

Week 39- X X X X 216.4 214.6 215 (215.6) +0.1

(I went on vacation and took 4 days off plan and it took all that time

to get back to my previous baseline! I decided to pick up where I

left off. The highest weight when I got back was 223 pounds!)

Week 40- 216.6 216.4 216.2 217 217 216.4 215.4 (216.43) +0.83

Week 41- 215.4 216.4 216.2 X 216.6 X 216.6 (216.24) -0.19

Week 42- 215.4 215.6 215.4 215.4 214.8 216 216 (215.51) -0.73.........(215.94) +0.35

(Wk 42 on Thurs Aug 15th started exercising)

Week 43- 215.4 215 215.8 X X 214.2 214.2 (214.92) -0.59

Week 44- 212.6 213.4 213.2 214 215 X 215.8 (214) -0.92

Week 45- 215 215.2 X 213.2 213.2 214 214.8 (214.23) +0.23

Week 46- X 214.4 215 216.6 217.8 216.4 214.2 (215.73) +1.50.(214.72) -1.23

Week 47- 215.2 216 X X 215.8 214.6 214.6 (215.24) -0.49

Week 48- 213.6 214 215.4 213.2 213.2 215 214.2 (214.09) -1.33

Week 49- 213 211.8 212 212.2 213 212.4 213 (212.49) -1.60

Week 50- 212.8 212.6 212.6 212.4 212.6 212.8 212.6 (212.63) +0.14.(213.61)-1.11

Week 51- 212.4

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Old Fri, Oct-18-13, 12:22
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Plan: One meal a day CAD style!
Stats: 235/212/140 Female 62
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Progress: 24%
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Here was my RM from today. Ate a bit late due to getting kids off to school and hubby was working today otherwise he helps with that so I can eat earlier. Today from 9:30-10:30am

2 scrambled eggs with 1/2 cup shredded cheese and 3 TBSP regular sour cream

big bowl of 1 1/2 cups white rice covered with 1 1/2 Cups of green curry and lots of big chunks of diced beef and 1 TBSP butter

Fruit smootie: one banana, 1 cup strawberries, 1 C green grapes, 1 C red grapes, 1 small orange, 1 small pear, 1/2 C full fat maple syrup yogurt, 1 C ice

Ice cream milk shake with 3 Cups ice cream 1/2 cup half & half and 1 starbucks via

5 safeway bakery smores cookies

Todays wt 212.6 lbs. Still on TOM but I think today is last day...

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Old Sun, Oct-27-13, 05:39
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I've moved my RM to breakfast time, mainly because I like porridge for breakfast But I just have a really small plate of it with salt and cream. Rest of the day I can manage without carbs, apart from suppertime when I've always had a couple of oatcakes on Brie. I really need to find something non-filling and non-carby for supper.
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Old Mon, Oct-28-13, 15:32
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Plan: One meal a day CAD style!
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Ok all, I officially ended ONE YEAR following CAD/CALP and combo with intermittent fasting. Once I met other people doing Rachael Heller's original way to lose weight by eating only one meal a day I slowly evolved my own eating patterns to that. I make sure to keep to the one hour rule. I am up to about 5 days a week with truely only one meal a day. The other 2, maybe 3 days I do end up having a CM if I need it. I do not force myself to eat the one meal a day. It is my natural hunger that guides me. The days I do get hungry again I will go ahead and have the CM. I also the last 3 months have switched to eating my RM in the morning and try to have it in by 9am according to The Big Breakfast Diet which was heavily cited by the Heller's in their book The Stress Eating Cure.

So now I am doing a combo of CAD/CALP, BBD, SEC, and IF- WOW!!! My personal eating plan is a one hour, total day's supply of calories, at least 7 ounces of protein, and consumed by 9am, balanced of protein/fat, veggies/fruits, and carbs (or at least my ratio that I found I can lose well on). Sounds complicated but is very easy and doeable. I sleep well with no full belly, have seen better results as well with ring being loser, just "appearing" thinner even though weight loss is still slow with a monthly avg of about 1/4 to 1/2 pound a week eating like this.

I did start out following CALP as written. I still avoid MSG, anything SF/AS in it, caffeine (even decaf) outside of my RM hour. I have experimented A LOT in the last year with RM for dinner, RM for lunch, then RM for breakfast. I follow many of the CALP "options" and even tried the GTF chromium for 2 months then went off and did not track any noticeable slow down in weight loss. I try to eat lots of cheese and fresh ground black pepper for natural sources of GTF chromium as the Heller's explained. I "aim" for balance at RM's with the 1/3 protein/fat, 1/3 low carb veggies, 1/3 carbs of my choice. However, along my journey in the last year I discovered I can still eat 1 part protein/fat to 2 parts low carb veggies and 2 parts carbs and still lose!

I probably was only eating about 1300-1500 calories a day the first couple of months but slowly started learning more about intermittent fasting and high calorie weight loss and actually increased my caloric intake but followed "the rules" of CAD and do intermittent fasting enough days of the week that it actually makes me less hungry and able to tolerate the amount of calories I currently eat and still see results.

I eat most days anywhere from 1800-2300 calories. 100-300 gms of carbs. A typical meal consists of this:

1 Large Ribeye Stead

24 ounce Blender Bottle fruit smoothie made from 1 banana, one orange, 1/2 a large apple, 1 Cup each of green grapes, red grapes, and strawberries. 1 Cup of full fat yogurt. I use "Cream Top" by Brown Cow which is 9gms of fat per serving.

12-16 ounces of an ice cream milkshake made with 2-3 cups of regular fat/sugar ice cream, 1/2 to 1 cup of regular half & half, and a Star Buck's Via thrown in for coffee flavoring.

5 chocolate chip cookies

Some days also add a 4 to 6 cup salad of mixed baby greens and 4 TBSP of regular Hidden Valley Ranch.

It may seem over the top to eat all that in one meal but I found I is doable, I do not feel stuffed like I am after a typical Thanksgiving meal. The full feeling last ALL DAY long and I am getting awesome tastey foods day in and day out!

My personal opinion on this WOE, sprinkled with hours of research on insulin resistance, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, syndrome X, hyperinsulinemia is that it isn't so much about the calories but is about minimizing insuin surges the rest of the day. Also about surpressing some of the other hormones like cortisol while raising and maintaing seratonin. There are suggestions by the Heller's and Dr. Jacobowitz in the BBD book and SEC book so I slowly encorporated those.

I only want to share my story of the past year and what has worked for me. I have only been off plan a total of 10 days (or less) in the last year. I learned that it took me 17 days to take off the weight from 4 days off plan! I learned that it can take 2 days for the result of a cheat day to show up on the scale. My point is that being off plan can serve a purpose too in the scientific method of learning about my own personal metabolism.

Week 1- 235 (235)

Week 2- 231 229 (230) -5 lbs

Week 3- 228 (228) -1 lb

Week 4- 227 226 (226.5) -1.5 lbs............................................... .............(229.9) -5.1 lbs

Week 5- 225 227 228 225 (226.25) -0.25 lbs

Week 6- 225 225 225.5 225.5 225 224 223.5 (224.79) -1.5 lbs

Week 7- 224 224 224 224 224 223 (223.83) -1 lb

Week 8- 224 225 224.5 224.5 224 224 224 (224.28) + 0.5 lb.....................(224.8) -5.1 lbs

Week 9- 222 224 225 222.5 223 222.5 223.5 (223.21) -1 lb

Week 10- 223 222.5 221.5 221 223 223 222 (222.29) -0.9 lb

Week 11- 221 223 221 221 221 224 223 (222) -0.30 lb

Week 12- 223 222 223 222 223 223 222.5 (222.64) +0.6 lb.......................(222.5) -2.3 lbs

Week 13- 222 222 220 222 222 221 221 (221.43) -1.20 lbs

Week 14- 221.5 222 223 223 221.5 222 218 (221.57) +0.14 lb

Week 15- 220 221 223 221 221 221.5 222.5 (221.43) -0.14 lb

Week 16- 224 221 X 221.5 223 223 223 (222.58) +1.15 lbs......................(221.8) -0.7 lbs

Week 17- 220 221 221 221 221 220 220 (220.57) -2 lbs

Week 18- 220 220 220.5 220 220 220 219.5 (220) -0.57 lb

Week 19- 220 218 219 218.5 218.5 218.5 217.5 (218.57) -1.43

Week 20- 218.5 219.5 220 220 220 220 220 (219.7) +1.10....................(219.71) -2.09 lbs

Week 21- 218.5 218.5 218.5 218.5 217.5 217.5 218 (218.14) -1.56

Week 22- 219.5 219.5 220 220 219.5 218.5 218.5 (219.36) +1.22

Week 23- 216 215.5 217 217.5 216.5 215 215 (216.07) -3.29

Week 24- 215.5 X X 217 215.8 216.8 217.4 (216.5) +0.43......................(217.51 lbs) -2.2 lbs

Week 25- 215.5 217 216 217 217.6 217.8 215.8 (216.67) +0.17

Week 26- 218.2 X 219 217.8 219.2 218.2 X (218.5) +1.81

Week 27- 217 216.6 216 216.6 217 217.8 219 (217.14) -1.36

Week 28- 217.6 217 216.6 216.6 217 217.6 217 (217.06) -0.08.............(217.34) -0.2 lbs

Week 29- 216.2 216.8 214.6 215.8 215.8 216.2 216.2 (215.9) -1.12

Week 30- 215.4 214.8 213 213.6 215 218.5 215.1 (215.1) -0.8

Week 31- 214 216.2 215.4 214.8 214.4 214.8 215.8 (215.06) -0.04

Week 32- 217 216.6 216.2 216.6 216.6 216.2 217.4 (216.7) +1.6.......(215.69) -1.63 lbs

Week 33- 216 214.4 215.6 216.2 216.2 X 215.4 (215.6) -1.1

Week 34- 215.6 216.2 214.8 216.2 215.2 214.8 216.4 (215.6) -0

Week 35- 217 X 215.8 215.8 216 215 214.6 (215.7) +0.1

Week 36- 215.4 215.6 216 216.8 215.2 215.4 213.8 (215.5) -0.24........(215.6) -0.09 lbs

Week 37- 216.8 215.4 X X X X X Vacation....

Week 38- X X X X X X X Vactaion.....

Week 39- X X X X 216.4 214.6 215 (215.6) +0.1

(I went on vacation and took 4 days off plan and it took all that time

to get back to my previous baseline! I decided to pick up where I

left off. The highest weight when I got back was 223 pounds!)

Week 40- 216.6 216.4 216.2 217 217 216.4 215.4 (216.43) +0.83

Week 41- 215.4 216.4 216.2 X 216.6 X 216.6 (216.24) -0.19

Week 42- 215.4 215.6 215.4 215.4 214.8 216 216 (215.51) -0.73.........(215.94) +0.35 lbs

(Wk 42 on Thurs Aug 15th started exercising)

Week 43- 215.4 215 215.8 X X 214.2 214.2 (214.92) -0.59

Week 44- 212.6 213.4 213.2 214 215 X 215.8 (214) -0.92

Week 45- 215 215.2 X 213.2 213.2 214 214.8 (214.23) +0.23

Week 46- X 214.4 215 216.6 217.8 216.4 214.2 (215.73) +1.50.(214.72) -1.23 lbs
(Above 2 weeks examples of my split-week gains from TOM)

Week 47- 215.2 216 X X 215.8 214.6 214.6 (215.24) -0.49
(Somewhere in here I started eating RM for breakfast and the weight is coming off even faster and I saw the LOWEST gain ever for being on TOM!!!)

Week 48- 213.6 214 215.4 213.2 213.2 215 214.2 (214.09) -1.33

Week 49- 213 211.8 212 212.2 213 212.4 213 (212.49) -1.60

Week 50- 212.8 212.6 212.6 212.4 212.6 212.8 212.6 (212.63) +0.14.(213.61)-1.11 lbs

Week 51- 212.4 212.8 212.4 212.4 212.6 212.2 212.2 (212.43) -0.20
(Week 50 and 51 example of split-week TOM and ONLY gained 0.14 pound???)

Week 52- 213 211.8 213 212.6 X 213.2 212.4 (212.76) +0.24

Week 53- 213.6
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Old Wed, Nov-13-13, 20:20
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Plan: One meal a day CAD style!
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210.6 pounds today!!! My lowest weight so far

These last 3 days have been RM only days just because I simply wasn't hungry and am getting plenty of calories in these meals.

MIW

Mon and Tues were the same. Monday I ate a bit later from 9am-10am and Tues was 7-8am:

7 ounces ribeye steak

5 Cup mixed green salad with 4 Tbsp regular Hidden Valley ranch dsg

24ounces of fruit smoothie with apple, plum, banana and green grapes and full fat maple syrup yogurt (Cream Top) by Brown Cow

16 ounces ice cream coffee milkshake (after blending) of 3 Cups regular fat Extreme Moosetracks Safeway ice cream, approx. 1 Cup regular half and half and 1 Starbuck's via

4-5 smores cookies

Today (Wed) was 8:30am to 9:30am:
3 eggs

6 small sweet peppers (red, yellow, orange for some veggies)

1 ounce cheddar cheese

6 small sweet peppers (red orange yellow for veggies)

2 medium croissants with approx. 4 Tbsp regular cream cheese and 4 ounces of deli turkey meat

16 ounces of leftover fruit smoothie from yesterday

16 ounces ice cream coffee milkshake (same recipe as above)

5 Smores cookies from Safeway's bakery


Definately not low calorie, low fat, low carb and the weight just keeps coming off. Oh yeah, totally full and NOT HUNGRY at all the rest of the day!!!

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MIW, i just wanted to stop in and say that i always read your posts. i find you very encouraging.

earlier this week, i once again, began incorporating BBD with my JUDDD plan. there IS something magical/scientific about both eating early in the day AND having one meal per day. after a few days, i quit constantly thinking about food when i wasn't eating.
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MIW, i just wanted to stop in and say that i always read your posts. i find you very encouraging.

earlier this week, i once again, began incorporating BBD with my JUDDD plan. there IS something magical/scientific about both eating early in the day AND having one meal per day. after a few days, i quit constantly thinking about food when i wasn't eating.


Hey just checking in and saw your post. I thought this thread was going to die! LOL Yes, I am still eating RM for breakfast and maybe a CM later if needed (per CAD/CALP). I look forward now to eating my big meal when I get up!

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Stats: 148/144/120 Female 5ft
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Progress: 14%
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I read this thread too, just post much
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Plan: One meal a day CAD style!
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Hey just checkin' folks! I saw Mardatha posted recently. I am still chugging along, doing mainly one meal a day still early. But alas all my calories have been catching up (had been experimenting with high calorie weight loss and finally found the "zone" so I need to cut back to it and not exceed it! LOL)

Anyway, happy 2014 all and I am mainly on the Hour Power thread here. Not sure if they are going to start an Hour Power #6 for the new year or not.

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