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Old Sat, Nov-05-11, 02:55
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Default Lobbying against a better school lunch

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...ts_healthy.html

Even if we decide that maybe, just maybe, pizza and french fries should not be on the school lunch menu, we still will have to get passed the junk food lobby.
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Old Sat, Nov-05-11, 12:54
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If they cook the veggies like most restaurants do - swimming in butter - the lunches still won't be much better for you.
IMHO if they served the veggies swimming in butter they would be MUCH healthier and tastier too. How come I can never find veggies swimming in butter in restaurants?
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Old Sat, Nov-05-11, 15:21
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Well depending on how they are made, tacos, pizza casserole, even burgers and fries, could be made relatively decent. While at the same time, even chicken and fruit, made like the school lunches do, are deadly crap. I think the reality is we are just never going to have anything decent as school lunch when mass-feeding, cost-bottom, and bad-science are the drivers.

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Old Sun, Dec-09-12, 13:52
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The situation with the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids' Act implemented is still just as bad, but in a pseudo-healthier way.
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Old Sun, Dec-09-12, 20:09
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It looks to me like the first assumption is that kids should eat more veggies, and that's how we make their diet more healthful. The problem is that experimental studies don't show that. Instead, they show that removing refined carbs and adding more fat is what makes a diet more healthful. These studies are done with adults, but kids are just humans growing into adults. Past weaning, the same diet should be adequate for kids and adults alike.

http://www.dietdoctor.com/science

So how do we apply the science above, yet keep it cheap and mass-produced? Industry always finds a way.

I don't see why the various producers should be worried about losing profits due to dropped sales. They don't care what they make their profits with, they only care that they make profits with it. It's not like they're restricted to producing only one thing for some inescapable reason. They can always produce something else, yet rake in the same profits.

The purpose of lobbying isn't just to prevent change, to maintain status quo. Sometimes it's used to push for subsidies so the changes that must be made are made easier for those who must make those changes. In some instances, the bill includes financial compensation already to avoid having to deal with lobbies, and to make it easier to change. For example, take a historical change in Montreal concerning old wooden buildings used to store hay in winter for horses, which all houses had, that were all torn down to prevent so many fires. The bill included a fixed subsidy to all landlords for that purpose. A subsidy, no lobby, no problem, it got done.
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Well, things have taken a turn. A wrong turn, but a turn nonetheless.
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Old Mon, Dec-10-12, 04:13
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I forgot, those old buildings were used to store coal later on for heating.
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Well, things have taken a turn. A wrong turn, but a turn nonetheless.
Oh well, at least it says they are allowing more meat.
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Old Tue, Dec-11-12, 12:43
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French fries should be a special treat to be eaten in a small portion once every 6-8 weeks.
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