Hey have you noticed that Stevia is not tolerated !

"Natural sweetener from a South American plant. 30 % sweeter than sugar. Used extensively in Japan, China, Korea, Israel, Brazil and Paraguay with no side effects reported. Known as Stevioside. Has not been rigorously tested for safety. No consistent manufacturing regulations."

Valtor

Very interesting! I see from the table (and Wikipedia) that raffinose is found in whole grains, beans, and brassicas. It's a trisaccharide of galactose, fructose, and glucose.

So while refined grains may possibly be fructose-free, whole grains are not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raffinose

They are right, but I think they are missing the point. HFCS is bad but sucrose is not much better. It's still 50% fructose. If the industry replaces HFCS with table sugar (sucrose), it won't change anything ! Table sugar most go away too.

I hope these people realize that.

Valtor

The more I research the more I find that stuff like white bread is a lot lower in fructose than whole wheat bread (if they don't add sugar of course).

This could mean that white bread is healthier than whole grain bread !

Valtor

Exactly. The lesser evil is still evil. I remember being infuriated when people were claiming that replacing HFCS with sucrose was suddenly going to make those products healthy. Sucrose is not a health food.

--Melissa

We came to that conclusion before we gave up grains entirely.

Well.... I've come across one discussion that people with HFI who live in Switzerland cannot tolerate stevia; however, at that board, some people with HFI, here in the USA, can tolerate it.

Maybe it's a matter of how it is processed?

And I found a board that will be a wellspring of good information about avoiding fructose... and NO, I have not yet read the Candy Thread, LOL


HFI-INFO Discussion Board - HFI -

Safe Ingredient Sources

http://hfiinfo.proboards.com/index....ard=ingredients

Well, I presume so, since he's LOW Carb nowadays, but it was interesting following his reasoning of why he believes that the fructose in those 16-20 cans of soda pop was responsible for him ballooning to over 400 pounds.

The whole issue of Fruitose Malabsorption is frankly confusing to me; however, perhaps by simply avoiding all of the very worst offenders, stuff would turn around.

Here's another list of foods.



Table: Foods, high in fructose, glucose, sorbitol, fructans, and other FODMAPs

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cach...e=UTF-8&strip=1

This report is written by Sue Shepherd, who is alleged to be 'the' expert on Fruc Mal:


http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cach...lient=firefox-a

I hear you! I was reading about all this stuff a year ago and my head just started spinning. What's the difference between starch and fiber? Soluble or insoluble? Is inulin a wonder prebiotic or a digestive catastrophe? I learned a lot today, but I'm still pretty confused about some of it.

It's just a harmless little hypothesis/obsession I have, no need to worry!

amanda

Just goes to show - yet again - that the French have very good instincts about food!

They are the ones who eat all that fatty food, yet also eat pastries made of the supposedly evil concoction of butter, sugar and white flour, munch white-flour baguettes at least twice a day, and still remain(ed) healthier than the rest of us in the modern western world!!!

Better go and get out my French cookbook again...

amanda

FODMAP Checklist

Check the food items you eat regularly:

–~ Fruit: apple, pear, guava, honeydew melon, mango, nashi fruit (Asian pear), pawpaw/papaya, quince, star fruit (carambola), watermelon

–~ Stone fruits: apricots, peaches, cherries, plums, nectarines

–~ Fruits with high sugar content: grapes, persimmon, lychee

–~ Dried fruit

–~ Fruit juice, canned packing juice

–~ Dried fruit bars

–~ Fruit pastes and sauces: tomato paste, chutney, relish, plum sauce, sweet and sour sauce, barbecue sauce

–~ Fruit juice concentrate

–~ Fructose as an added sweetener

–~ High fructose corn syrup or corn syrup solids including:
Fruit drinks, carbonated drinks, pancake syrups, catsup, jams, jellies, pickle, relish, etc. and/or liquid cough remedies and liquid pain relievers, etc

–~ Honey

–~ Coconut: milk, cream

–~ Fortified wines: sherry, port, etc

–~ Vegetables: Onion, leek, asparagus, artichokes, cabbage, Brussel sprouts, beans

–~ Legumes: Baked beans, kidney beans, lentils, black eye peas, chickpeas, butter beans

–~ Wheat or white bread

–~ Wheat pasta, noodles

–~ Wheat-based breakfast cereal

–~ Wheat-based cakes, cookies, crackers

–~ Chicory-based coffee-substitute beverages

–~ Artificial sweeteners: sorbitol, mannitol, isomalt, xylitol

–~ If lactose malabsorption: milk, ice-cream, yoghurt


*FODMAPs consumed on a regular basis are potential triggers for functional gut symptoms and a trial of limiting them should be undertaken. Please note, this checklist has not undergone evaluation for its usefulness in clinical practice.

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cach...&gl=us&ie=UTF-8

This thread is giving me a headache!!