There was a time during withdrawal about a year in everytime I ate I would fall asleep more like pass out. So far my sugar is higher on fasting test but not over the legal limit. Before I quit the antidepressants I had fluctuating bp now it is find she says. I do not eat fruit as it makes me feel bad crave pasties some times or molasses crave beets sometimes. When I eat I do veg meat potatoes but do love butter and cheese which I was told to eat to keep my calcium up the cheese not the butter
For at least a year I quit coffee as I would get so dizzy I would fall that was I thought a withdrawal thing too now I have one cup a day. I rarely have any alcohol maybe twice a year I will have one drink xmass birthday...
Ideas???
Since this is a diet site and I need a diet please recommend if possible could it be a site that will not cost money as I have not worked in a long time and don't have any to spare. Thanks Susan

Reason for getting off Antidepressants I think I was in tolerance as I was having withdrawal symptoms while still taking the meds.
I was sick all the time with infection.
Before I quit I had pancreatitis vomiting blood wild periods ovarian cyst gerd sores on my esophagus could no longer eat had the runs and vomiting bile all the time.
When I quit effexor I also quit drugs to treat the side effects of Effexor which were
pariet
verapamil
lyrica
domparidone
mirapex
the last three were a last ditch effort by a neurologist I had reactons to the last three and did not take them more than a wk. I quit them all the same day it is almost 4 years since then they have not been pretty years but I have been getting better generally there are some hang over issues now but I have been well before this on an off and on basis. It seems when I try to take something anything to increase my well being and health it reacts on me badly and down I go. again ... tired.

forgot statins crestor and one other I can't recall. lipitor quit liptor same day too.
had my gallbladder out in 98

Sorry for being so needy. I should be able to trust my doctor and do as she says BUT I have been so badly burned that is the reason I did not have a gp for so long I just turned away. Drugs have already cost me a lot and the pill stops here.

I am not sure if I should be focusing on a diet for the liver or the brain?

Try this diet, I've heard good things about it.

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?page_id=8

The diet doesn't cost money, but there is a book involved. You can poke around the website, they have a good blog with lots of information, if you want to see if you like what he has to say first.

PS. Your brain and your liver live in the same body, so a diet that benefit both is best

I think all this negativity against Vit D is due to the fact that it isn't a drug and the Big Pharma can't make any money off of it. I think they would prefer if it was prescription, then they would promote it.

I was taking 10,000 IU of Vit D3 for almost a year now and my level is just where I want it. Oddly, the doctor that asked me why I was taking so much and was rather skeptical about it, has now told me to reduce my intake to 7500 a day because he thought it may continue to be stored and that could be a problem. I was surprised to hear him say that. He said we could check it again in a year to see what happens. He now supports me in this.

Maybe you can, but I would bet *most* people here feel they *can't* trust their doctors. Any doctor that would put a woman on statins, for example, is automatically totally undeserving of any sort of trust, IMHO.

Meat, veg and potatoes almost sounds like you're already eating the Perfect Health Diet.

Choline is needed to de-fat the liver. Bacon and eggs every morning would probably do you some good. Adding fish to your diet will help balance your EFAs which should help your brain. I'm afraid statins aren't good for your brain.

I do eat fish and have had extra lately as my son has been away he is a meat lover I love veggies and fish. There has been just myself and the cat and we both had poached fish several times this month. Eggs and bacon sound like a bad idea for the cholesterol no? Not to mention my fatty liver. I will do a search on choline I have been reading so many things I am confused and can't quit stay on topic. I am not sure what this is about but I hate it. My thinking is scattered.
PS
I had a sore throat while taking the mag and took some oregano oil?

Why should woman not take statins I have one sister like me who now refuses and two other sisters taking them. The new drug she wants me to take is ezetrol something like that it stops fat in the intestines not the liver... the sister who is like me in her reaction to statins has tried it alread and it caused confusion.

Thanks :0 I have a few books here now from the library it seems there are a lot of information to read it could take awhile.

Eggs and bacon are not going to affect your cholesterol. If you eat more cholesterol, your liver makes less; if you eat less cholesterol, your liver makes more to compensate.

What's more, you can completely forget about being scared about cholesterol. The whole anti-cholesterol thing is pure hype and bunkum.

Fatty livers are caused by too many carbs in the diet (or too much alcohol) as far as I know. Pâté de foie gras (fatty liver paste) is made by giving geese huge amounts of grains in their feed; it works the same way for humans, too.

Your scattered thinking might be helped by magnesium. My concentration improved massively once I had got my Mg levels up somewhat.

How did you take your magnesium and what kind are you taking? I have never heard of it causing a sore throat before. Did you take some kind of magnesium that you drink? If it has citrate in it (i.e. some kind of lemon derivative), I can imagine that that might irritate the throat.

And maybe it is time to take a rest from all this reading!!! You'll do your head in!!!

Take a break and let it all sink in before you embark on another research project, would be my advice.

Take care,

amanda

Hi Susan! Yes, what Amanda said. Carbohydrates turn your liver into a fat-making machine. I suggested the bacon and eggs because they're high in choline, especially the egg yolks.

Chris Masterjohn has written extensively on NAFLD. I'll post a couple I think you might want to read first:

New Fatty Liver Study Shows that Carbohydrate Restriction Causes Statistical Anomalies - A new study claims to show that carbohydrate restriction is superior to calorie restriction at improving fatty liver disease:

Does Choline Deficiency Contribute to Fatty Liver in Humans?

"How did you take your magnesium and what kind are you taking? I have never heard of it causing a sore throat before. Did you take some kind of magnesium that you drink? If it has citrate in it (i.e. some kind of lemon derivative), I can imagine that that might irritate the throat."

I tried the milk of magnesia recipe to make my own. When it came to diluting it I did not have other bottles so thought I had figured the ratio correctly and added it to water in a glass. Maybe my math was wrong. I wish I could think better as I can't recall it very well at this point as to ratios. I still have the bottle of first me mom and soda water in the fridge but stopped doing anything with it after I felt bad. Before that I was taking magnesium citrate about 100mg a day...something in my head went wonky not sure if it was before or after I did the liquid mag. Sleeplessness anxiety there was a glimpse of feeling normal.. it is all so confusing just now. I am not taking anything for a bit to let my system settle down some if it will I am getting about 4 hours sleep a night better than the 2 hr plus power naps here and there I was getting last wk so things are coming around.
I have just learned I have high tsh the doc said she was going to retest it but she did not give me lab req for the testing.
If mag helps your body use Vit d and I do have a thyroid issue maybe the extra Vit D use is what is keeping me up... hyperthyroid can keep one sleepless and perhaps that is my problem all along with vit D. Tho my thryroid was checked after the first bad reaction to vit d and I seen a specialist who said vit D can't cause all that. Surely she checked it again although when I paid to get her report I seen no evidence she checked it again and I have other blood work she did. Maybe she just dropped the ball.

I found this about vit D and thyroid:
You may be susceptible to toxicity at lower dosages if you have excess blood calcium levels, hyperparathyroidism, hyperthyroidism, granulomatous diseases such as sarcoidosis, Crohn’s disease and tuberculosis, certain cancers, or if you are taking certain drugs that make you more sensitive to vitamin D. The symptoms of vitamin D toxicity are loss of appetite, nausea or vomiting, feeling nervous or weak, itching, excessive thirst, increased urination, and elevated blood calcium levels.
my last thyroid level is almost 6 it should be 5 on the test they used.
frustrating.
I never thought the mix of home made mag may have been what caused the sore throat I only mentioned it because I thought maybe oil of oregano had done something to cause the insomnia to go bigger it was a bit of an issue before but then went bigger. Like two hours sleep in 24hrs.
Good call I likely mixed it too strong if mag can cause throat irritation I need to be more careful.

I have been eating a lot of mixed grains thinking they were good for me. need to rethink all this and yes a break may be a good idea but stopping does not mean I rest almost easier to stay busy lately anyhow. Why are they always pushing cholesterol reducing drugs on me then... my oh my...??? I have been on liptor and crestor quit have been off since 2007 not going back.

"if you eat less cholesterol, your liver makes more to compensate."
this sounds like crazy talk to me guess I am showing my ignorance but I will learn.
I am going to beat this liver thing as soon as I figure it out so I should eat eggs and bacon lol I have avoided both like the plague. I looked up foods high in choline and have been craving some of them as in kidney beans and cauliflower.
Guess I will go eat some kidney beans and have a rest.
thanks for you help

I am very curious about the clear head or maybe not that but the feeling like I was my old self that I had briefly. The mom mix for mag is was said to be a more ingestable source so maybe it kicked my system into gear briefly ....which may have also kicked up the Vit d use in my body in which case ...my thyroid being high tilled me into the reaction I got.
I am some day going to try this mom again because the chasing the dragon for me is feeling like my old self a treasure from where I have sat a long long time. I would be worth a chance of this tilt if that is what it takes but I would rather find out as much as I can to avoid the tilt and just have myself back.
A call to the thyroid doctor is in order tho I don't hold much hope with her she proved to be useless last time. Perhaps a new doctor but that will all take time likely a lot of time. So next step call the doctor and have get the lab req for blood work she forgot to give me last time.
Thanks to all for your help in figuring this out.
Wonder if lil Annie had her thyroid checked... and wonder how accurate the thyroid tests actually are if they fluctuate from day to day one day up another down?
off to learn some more....