Originally Posted by rightnow
I've read enough about bodybuilding nutrition the last 12 months to pretend expertise on the subject. I've worked pretty hard on finding a way to rationalize why some degree of carbs are ok, either in general or cyclically (by 'some degree' I mean say 100 a day).
But I think maybe carby eating isn't just bad for me. It's just deadly, period.
Maybe the link to obesity is that the carbs create metabolic syndrome which in turn has a huge effect on disease.
So maybe I just can't find my way out of it. I keep looking for a path to Why I Can Eat Some Kind Of Bread and Stuff and I just... can't seem to get there from here. The more I read about the effect of substantial carboyhydrates on the body, the more I'm frankly amazed that our entire society isn't dying off at twice the speed it already is.
Several of your comments resonate with me, RightNow. I deliberately ate a quite carby meal last weekend for my birthday dinner. I didn't go crazy but I had what I wanted, which included BangBang Shrimp (a tempura fried shrimp with very spicy sweetish curryflavored cream sauce on it), Lobster with butter, Fried Calamari with Thai dipping sauce (it was full of sugar, think spicy duck sauce), and finished with a Creme Brulee. Can you say Sugar
About an hour after eating this meal, I was having hot flashes, my heart was pounding, I felt sweaty all over and I would bet my blood pressure was up 10 points. I had a slight headache and just overall could tell my metabolism was just flipping out. This continued for several hours. I used to experience this after a large meal but always blamed this particular type reaction on the couple glasses of wine I usually would have with this sort of meal. Uh...guess what. It ain't the wine, kiddo. Note, this was the first such meal I've had in about 3 months.
I'm being my own Weird Science Experiment, admittedly, but I'm of the opinion that refined carbs will kill me if I give them enough chance.
I would say absolutely YES to this>>>> But I think maybe carby eating isn't just bad for me. It's just deadly, period
I don't know about you, but I ALREADY have Metabolic Syndrome! I'm absolutely doing everything in my power to reverse it as quickly as possible before I develop full blown coronary disease or diabetes. No help from my stupid doctors (whole 'nother story there).
I think we need to understand fully that we are playing with fire when we allow high glycemic carbs into our meals. Perhaps weightlifters and bodybuilders can do it. I'm not one. I suspect you are not either. They likely don't have the kind of screwed up metabolism I have and carb loading may work just fine for these guys.
What sets most of us apart from bodybuilders and why I do NOT attempt to subscribe to their practices at this time in my life (and I'm an old BFL vet), is that I do not currently possess a healthy metabolism
and I think eating carbs is like playing Russian Roulette with my health.
Another amazing thing. I weighed 191.4 on Sunday morning after that meal. Up almost 4 lbs overnight. I have lost it this week, in just 4 days by eating a great deal of FAT. Yes, fat.
How strange is that?
As always, the standard disclaimer: just MY two cents worth.