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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 10:33
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guess this whole thing has brought out my cynical side.

too bad it's all her crap that comes up when I google. Maybe more people visiting the blogs will help raise their listing on google.
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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 10:50
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guess this whole thing has brought out my cynical side.
too bad it's all her crap that comes up when I google. Maybe more people visiting the blogs will help raise their listing on google.


whatsamatta penni? not getting enough fat in your diet, my cranky friend?

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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 10:53
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LOL! too much actually. I upped it and gained 3 pounds. but I soooo love the full fat steak, Amy!
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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 11:05
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LOL! too much actually. I upped it and gained 3 pounds. but I soooo love the full fat steak, Amy!


i hear that! it's probably my biggest "fat" indulgence...the occasional steak

anyway...back to topic..

again i do doubt they're all the same people doing the blogs but irregardless, i agree with what seems to be a common mission...don't you?
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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 11:08
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I know the problem with it appealing to the media (and this is unfortunate and horrible) is due to no one dying yet and having it attributed to kimkins.

We talked about it in our editorial meeting and might include it in a list of fad diets to avoid, but jury's still out.

Thankfully, Star Jones had bypass... phew, if she'd said Kimkins there'd be no way to stop it.
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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 11:29
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I know the problem with it appealing to the media (and this is unfortunate and horrible) is due to no one dying yet and having it attributed to kimkins.

We talked about it in our editorial meeting and might include it in a list of fad diets to avoid, but jury's still out.

Thankfully, Star Jones had bypass... phew, if she'd said Kimkins there'd be no way to stop it.


well, thanks for having it considered...i hope that idea gets picked up for the canadian audience!

we don't know about deaths (and how would we, realistically?) but that doesn't mean it hasn't or can't happen.

though Lord, i hope not!
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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 12:08
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I had heard the term "kimkins" tossed around here before, but I never paid it much mind since, like another poster stated, it sounded like another low fat plan to me. Over the past couple of days, I've taken interest in this thread regarding the controversy over this diet. At first, I was completely shocked by how a plan advocating starvation could be seen as a viable and mainstream weightloss solution. But then, when you think about it, it really isn't that much different than the "optifast diet" which sounds very similar to the Cambridge shake-based diet that someone mentioned a few posts back. You live off low calorie, low fat shakes to drop drastic amounts of weight quickly, all "under a doctor's supervision" of course, so it must be healthy. Of the three people I know who did this opti-fast diet, all three lost considerable weight, but have gained it back and then some over the years, because they never learned HOW TO EAT. Two are now considering gastric bypass - one has gone through all the preliminaries and has her surgery date set. The other has too many health problems to consider the surgery, but I'm sure he would if his doctors allowed him. What with all these rediculous quick fixes that put the dieter through hell so that, God-forbid, they don't actually have to learn how to eat and live healthy, I think its just a matter of time before getting your jaw wired shut becomes the new "medically sound" answer to society's weight problems. Its like no price is too high to pay for some poeple (starvation, risky surgery, oily discharge from Alli) to avoid having to face their food addictions head-on and muscle through them the old fashioned way. I hope I haven't offended anyone, I just get frustrated. When people who are on goverment asistance are getting gastric bypass surgey for free on their Medicaid , I almost feel like I should quit work, collect from the govt., stuff myself to 300 lbs. (which would take about a year and a half if I let myslef) and go sign up for the surgery. (No not really, that would be idiotic when I know I have Atkins ) Sorry I got off on a tangent, but back to Kimkins - its a crock of anorexia-promoting garbage that will definitely ruin more lives than it improves, IMHO.
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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 13:11
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wonder if we'll see a response from kimmer to this:

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com...tter-to-kimmer/
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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 16:06
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wonder if we'll see a response from kimmer to this:

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com...tter-to-kimmer/







I doubt it.
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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 16:30
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I doubt it.


me too...but it'd be interesting.
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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 17:21
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me too...but it'd be interesting.


LOL Cutie, look what you're doing to me - I gotta check the blogs now and see what's happening!

Looks like ducky posted again - how many is that today? I'm liking this site!


Mission Possible: Convince People Being Fat is Worse than the Kimkins Diet


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Old Tue, Jul-31-07, 19:31
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Old Wed, Aug-01-07, 08:29
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Cutie-

I was a member of the KK site too, I always wondered where you went to. It is really good to see you doing well and being safe!

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Old Wed, Aug-01-07, 08:48
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I've been following all these threads closely and I'm so glad that you all have stuck this out. The blogs are a great sign too - hopefully when people google Kimkins they'll be able to get the full story before they sign up!

I'm glad that the diet is finally being exposed for what it truly is. Hopefully Kimmer herself will be exposed too.
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Old Wed, Aug-01-07, 09:08
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Cutie-

I was a member of the KK site too, I always wondered where you went to. It is really good to see you doing well and being safe!



aww thanks, how sweet!
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