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Originally Posted by -wednesday
im not saying going back to your fat ass ways. im saying once you INTRODUCE carbs back into your life (little or a lot) the weight will come back on.
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No more than it would have had you never reduced carbs...If anything, LCing augments insulin sensitivity... making the rate of post-loss regain and tolerance for carbs
temporarily better.
There is nothing about low carbing that makes your body permanently more sensitive to carb related weight gain. For the first few days, you will regain water very quickly, this usually totals less than 10 lbs. Also, at first one might be spiking harder in response to carbs. This makes your body make more insulin (because of spikes), which makes your body more likely to store fat. However, once your body gets used to carbs again after it makes the metabolic shift... everything is back as it was and any weight you gain is just the weight associated with relapsing from a diet.
If your carb tolerance is good, and you are eating a normal diet with normal amounts of energy (i.e. not relapsing into over eating of junk), then there shall be no dramatic weight regain following introduction of carbs. Lots of people on the forum have went from something like Atkins induction (almost no carbs) to a low GI plan or something similar, and they did *not* regain weight.
Speaking personally, I am very carb sensitive, and if I eat even half the carbs you're eating I start gaining weight really easy... unless I do rather low cals. If I ate 1700 cals and 200 carbs I would gain a tremendous amount of weight rather quickly. 1700 cals plus 125ish carbs put on so much weight in just about 2 or 3 weeks time (christmas week to mid/early jan). I gained like 10 pounds, 5 of them in true fat weight. On LC I can eat so much more food, and if I keep my carbs low enough, it is almost impossible to gain weight. First, I can eat a tremendous amount of food for my size and really not gain (sometimes the more I eat, I seem to *lose* if anything). Second, I simply cannot put away as many cals as I can of a higher carb diet. I become satisfied before that.
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and for the person who was restricting cals to 1000 a day, the reason you were losing weight so slowly was probably due to the lack of calories in your diet. 1000 cals forces your body to go into starvation mode and therby slows your metabolism down.
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That's BS.
If she were eating 1000 cals of LC and exercising the same, I can gaurentee she would lose *very* well and probably become underweight. I know because I did the same... except, less exercise
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The carbs are the difference. Calories are just units of energy, metabolism controls what it does with calories. Metabolism determines wither calories go into energy & lean tissue making/wasting, or into fat storing. Low carb orients metabolism toward the first set, carbs the latter. Calories matter, I'm not going to say otherwise. They affect orientation of metabolism to a point, and the more imbalanced your metabolism the more they matter (to avoid blowing up) but for me and many others *type* of calories matters the most.
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i eat 1700 cals a day, 50 g of fat, and 200 carbs. i watch everything to a certain extent, but i can still enjoy my favorite foods. you can eat greasy bacon and its all fine and dandy but uh oh have a apple and your in trouble? makes no sense to me...
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The bacon contributes fat energy, and will not orient your metabolism to sugar burning. The apple will.
It is good to eat fat to lose fat, and not to eat sugar containing foods like apples in quantity. Sugars impair catabolism of body fat by raising insulin and suppressing glucagon. This makes you more food dependent (you get hungrier and eat more), and you are more food dependent because your body has a piss poor ability to make its own energy on the fly (from protein and fat). If you're trying to avoid being a fat body, then you want your body in a state where it can liberate stored fat for lipolysis to create energy, and create sugar from gluconeogenesis. If your insulin levels are higher because you're eating "good carbs" then this becomes a bit of a challenge for your body. You are not only hungrier (this is the least of your problems) but your body is in a constant energy deprived state. This means energy is lower, you simply aren't losing weight in spite of restricting, and odds are your body is falling apart inside, slowly, bit by bit.
By the way, did you hear what I ate the other day? Didn't sound deprived or unnatural to me.
For breakfast I had a bit more brownie (tiny piece), some chicken, and a bowl of cereal with strawberries, bit of peaches, almonds, and LC milk. Why would I eat carbs when I can have whatever I want (within reason) on a way of eating that works *so much better* for my metabolism? I can't even imagine how sh*tty I would feel if that cereal was special K with real sugar, skim milk and copious amounts of fruit. Forget it.
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but again, everyone is entitled to their opinion, no need to get all riled up about it and making immature remarks. i have tried low carb in the past and it made me want to puke considering i hate meat and cheese. but these were only my thoughts, and i just wanted to share them to let everyone know that i have lost quite a bit of weight from no low-carbing just everything in moderation.
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If you are a vegetarian you can do LC by making it based on soy, nuts, and higher fat vegetation like avocados, olives and olive oil... do you like eggs and fish, as those are perfect LC foods. Do you hate *all* cheese, because there are many dairy products that aren't like your typical sharp salty cheddar.