she has that in her office as a flyer, so thats why I asked,
so she beleives it does

Doctors believe lots of things that are not true, unfortunately.

She beleives it and thats all that matters to me, she is a highly recomended Dr and one of the nices persons I know. I am sure she has reasons for beleiving it. Becasue I know she has been correct in my other problems I wouldnt doupt her
sandi

Well, you could ask her what reasons she has for believing the fat-breast cancer hypothesis, and then formulate an opinion of your own.

You mean the Jim Fixx that smoked, drank and ate fast foods as well as ran? Look I am not bashing Jim Fix, far from it. He was a pioneer in promoting running as a means of staying fit. It was when he was not running that was the problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fixx
http://www.findarticles.com/p/artic...v10/ai_15244219
(and yes this article has the typical low fat diet in it, but that was not the point of posting it here)

But show me one, ONE credible, verifyable study, that shows a direct cause/effect relationship between Atkins, properly followed, causing any disease. And make sure that person with the disease had the total physical/bloodwork from before Low Carbing that proved they did not have the underlying disease already in place. Jim Fixx is a flying example of what I am/have been saying. Running did not kill Jim Fixx, his underlying and apparently ignored condition did.

Face it people, Atkins or any other low carb lifestyle is FAR MORE SAFE than anyone wants to admit, outside of we happy few here.

Any plan, rich in whole, natural foods and low in processed foods is far healthier than the typical American diet.

As to your doctor, did you ask her why/how your diet causedan increased risk? I never let anyone get away with a blanket generalization like that anymore, especially a doctor.

SHe didnt tell me personility, I asked her about the flyer she had outside in her waiting room.
She said which was the point I was really trying to make, not what she beleives to be true,
was I have to weight all my risk factors and see which ones is a more dangerous risk to each person.
I have been to alot of Drs. different specialists, this year and not one said anything bad about Atkins. They said it was good I was losing weight and as long as I was losing weight.
sandi

Believing what your doctor tells you without questioning it or looking for answers on your own is very dangerous. I'd never have identified some serious illnesses that I had and have if I hadn't been a little skeptical and willing to check into things on my own. I know of people who were undiagnosed for decades because they went to a series of doctors who didn't listen or believe their patients and were relying on the paragraph or two they memorized about the disease 30 years ago in medical school.

Blind faith in doctors is deadly.

Especially when you consider how people choose their doctors. My mom likes her doctor and thinks she is good. I asked her, what makes her good? The answer... "She is nice". I'd rather have a doctor that is thorough, listens, takes me and my concerns seriously over a nice doctor any day.

........I'd rather have a doctor that is thorough, listens, takes me and my concerns seriously over a nice doctor any day ........

Yes that and one that takes the time to actually tell you what's behind what they say and why they belive it. Or to cite case examples of why something is bad or good for you. Not to just spout the same old FUD articles or tired old Drivel we have all heard a million times. Want to have some real fun, reference a recent study or article in a reputable publication that goes contrary to some drivel they (your doctor) speak. You have never seen such a look on a human face in your life!

I am not bashing Doctors, yours Sandi, or anyone elses. But do not be afraid to question what you are told, and immediately feel uneasy about a Doctor that won't answer your questions, or one that gives you a power trip about them beig the medical professional, not you.

Sandi, I am glad you posted, and am even more glad your doctor is very supportive of you and your goals. Also, pointing out possible risk factors is awesome. I feel it is incumbent upon anyone to then go and research them for yourselves. Never blindly take anyones word, good or bad, as a way to manage your own health!

And for my money, a good doctor is one that realizes medicine is an ever evolving science, and ALWAYS subject to change. A few are afraid to look outside the norm as they are very afraid of malpractice and losing their license.

You dont have to tell me about blind faith, I too had to Dx my self and family more then once. But this Dr I respect, she has proven her self in her knowledge and all. I never go by what a Dr says without researching it my self anyway.
but again everyone is missing what point I was trying to make anyway

I think I got it, we were posting at almost the same time.....

sorry
thank you
sandi
and amen to John14.6

Oh, and no need to apologize...I love a good discussion! But I am sorry if I ruffled any feathers too!

Sandi,

The flyer is outdated. There was a study recently completed that found no link between fat intake and breast cancer. It was discussed here.

Not a study, but..

The first time I started Atkins, my gall bladder finally died. I'd had numerous GB attacks for the previous 30 years, and had a gall stone the size of an egg.

I had a laparoscopic cholecystectomy, but they didn't realize I had an ileus (paralyzed intestine) and tried to feed me. Of course it didn't go through, and I just got worse. After a legendary vomiting episode that the nurses still remind me of, I slowly got better, but I spent 9 days in the hospital. People can get a heart transplant in less than 9 days.

I'd say Atkins caused my GB to die. High fat doesn't mix with a sick GB. Of course I should have known that. I now remind my patients who are starting a LCD to get their gallblader out first if they have problems with it.

Yes I know carbs cause gallstones in the first place. So this is probably an unfair criticism. Actually it's not really a criticism. As I said, I should have known better.

2 months later, after I had recovered I tried the diet again and everything went fine. I reccomend LC to everyone who needs it, and there are plenty of them around.

But you see LC, your gallbladder had problems before your first time on Atkins. Atkins did not make your gallbladder have problems, it made the already existing situation worse, it did not cause it, or your paralized intestine.

The low carb diet agrivated an already existing condition.

Though I can sympathise with the legendary vomiting.....I had the same thing happen when my appendix almost exploded. The nurses still talk about it 19 years later when talking to patients etc...

I guess we are both the, "there was this one guy...."