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Old Tue, Apr-07-20, 05:04
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Marty Kendall of Optimizing Nutrition offers his list of nutrient dense foods (not big on supplements) and free recipes for goals, including enhancing immune function. https://optimisingnutrition.com/202...ee-recipe-book/
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Old Tue, Apr-07-20, 05:22
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Marty Kendall of Optimizing Nutrition offers his list of nutrient dense foods (not big on supplements) and free recipes for goals, including enhancing immune function. https://optimisingnutrition.com/202...ee-recipe-book/


I am doing my second go around on Marty Kendall's nutrient optimizer masterclass. I highly recommend it. I still take a bunch of supplements but don't use them as a substitute for optimizing my nutrition through real food.
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Old Tue, Apr-07-20, 14:45
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Back on post #89, I mentioned cancer researcher David Harper who included four studies on Ketogenic diets and immune functions at Denver...how they Maybe would help protect against Covid-19.
I was looking at his website, extensive resources https://www.biodiet.org/resources/ and Media.
Under podcasts, 5 new ones on immunity and Covid-19. https://www.biodiet.org/media/
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Old Tue, Apr-07-20, 18:31
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Merpig, they call that white coat hypertension.

My BP is usually between 105 and 120 (mid 60s on the bottom) until I go to the doctor, when it is usually 130 to 150. I don't know why, because I don't feel like I'm nervous or anything.

My doc knows that so the assistant who does my BP always asks me what it was in the morning,

Bob
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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 00:46
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Are we addressing key lifestyle tips which could help this respiratory illness?

Dr Aseem Malhotra, NHS cardiologist and MD.

As more data on the coronavirus becomes available, it is becoming clearer which groups are at greater risk of developing severe complications. Obesity, Type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and smoking appear to put people at greater risk, while exercise and good nutrition improve the body’s defences.


https://www.sarahannmacklin.com/blog/aseem-malhotra
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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 04:42
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Thanks for the link, Demi. I'm hearing these observations and this advice repeatedly in the context of Covid19. Eating whole foods, healthy proteins and fats leading to the elimination of Metabolic Syndrome is a powerful defense mechanism. Good summary by Malhotra that when followed can be very beneficial.
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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 04:51
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Just watched this video again yesterday by Dr. Lustig that defines Metabolic Syndrome. It pieces together all the factors contributing to Metabolic Syndrome and clearly defines how people develop the condition. This is Lustig unfiltered, and I believe we could use more of this type of bluntness when confronting the dietary ecosystem that is prevalent today:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zx-QrilOoSM
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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 05:03
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Just watched this video again yesterday by Dr. Lustig that defines Metabolic Syndrome. It pieces together all the factors contributing to Metabolic Syndrome and clearly defines how people develop the condition. This is Lustig unfiltered, and I believe we could use more of this type of bluntness when confronting the dietary ecosystem that is prevalent today:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zx-QrilOoSM


We here who know how to eat in order to optimize our health are the fortunate ones. What we know and have learned should be common knowledge but it is not. We are all vulnerable. None of us is immortal but it is possible to stack the odds in our favor so that we successfully resist disease and live out our maximal lifespan in maximal physical health. Any one of us might contract the virus but at least we are doing all we can to prevent that outcome and that starts with eating a healthy diet of low carb real foods. I'm happy to be in this group. I will watch Dr Lustig's video.
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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 06:04
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Thanks for link! Dr. Lustig puts on quite a show Compelling evidence.

I can understand his "real food" stance; because it works for him. And I'm not saying he's wrong. Those of us here are not "casual dieters" for whom that would work, is my only caveat. But Dr. Lustig is probably right about all those people who don't put on large amounts of excess weight, who handle common food toxins without issue, who eat Real Food in a way that does not give them insulin resistance.

After all, I think back to pictures of people from the forties and fifties in our country, when the bunless hamburger with cottage cheese was the "diet plate" and radically fewer people were obese. They were all eating real food.

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We here who know how to eat in order to optimize our health are the fortunate ones. What we know and have learned should be common knowledge but it is not. We are all vulnerable. None of us is immortal but it is possible to stack the odds in our favor so that we successfully resist disease and live out our maximal lifespan in maximal physical health. Any one of us might contract the virus but at least we are doing all we can to prevent that outcome and that starts with eating a healthy diet of low carb real foods. I'm happy to be in this group. I will watch Dr Lustig's video.


Yes, exactly. My own experience with my health has been radically changed ever since I started low carbing, and my own health challenges have responded ONLY to diet and carefully chosen supplements. I would be in a world of hurt right now had I simply followed the advice of doctors who are specialists in my condition.

Which gives a clue to how off base the "conventional wisdom" has become.
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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 07:43
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It is a shame all these good speeches are on;y available to subscribers.

I wanted to post them to Twitter and Facebook, but since I am not a subscriber I could not share this important information.
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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 08:02
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Originally Posted by GRB5111
Just watched this video again yesterday by Dr. Lustig that defines Metabolic Syndrome. It pieces together all the factors contributing to Metabolic Syndrome and clearly defines how people develop the condition. This is Lustig unfiltered, and I believe we could use more of this type of bluntness when confronting the dietary ecosystem that is prevalent today:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zx-QrilOoSM

from 56:40

And the thing is we knew it. We knew it fifty years ago. We knew it was a problem but we were driven off course through some of the things that Gary talked earlier and because the Sugar Research Foundation actually made us go off course on purpose. Because they sponsored a whole program within the Sugar Research Foundation to basically obfuscate the truth. Started in 1965 with a literature review published by the New England Journal by Fred Stare, the head of nutrition at Harvard School of Public Health and his assistant Mark Hegsted who became the head of the USDA which singled out fat and cholesterol as the dietary cause or coronary disease and downplayed the evidence that sucrose was also a risk factor. The SRF said the reviews objective contributed articles for inclusion and received drafts and the SRF's funding and role were not disclosed. It's all been a big fraud. The whole thing. The last 50 years of nutrition information in America is a big fraud. All of it. And that's why diabetes has continued to increase not just in prevalence but in incidence. Because we actually put the Bunsen burner underneath it to make it boil over. Because we were lied to. Now you guys know that. The problem is we got to get everyone else to understand it too. So is sugar public enemy number one? Trans fats used to be. But now they're gone. So now this is public enemy number one because we could do something about this. And you wouldn't have to go low carb. You just have to go low sugar it's called real food.


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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 08:49
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I read that 90% of those hospitalized had one or more of the following problems before catching COVID, Hypertension, Obesity, Diabetes, Heart/Circulatory problems.

So those of us here who have lost weight have one less factor, and probably more.

Bob
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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 09:34
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I don't think that eating a LC/keto diet will necessarily protect us from coronavirus BUT one thing I have noticed in comparing the posts I see here to ones being made on FB:

People who post here seem, by and large, to be rolling with the punches and taking this crisis in stride. Everyone seems to paying attention to the news but no one is freaking out.

I don't see anybody posting here about constant crying jags, deep depression, uncontrollable rages, inability to cope, etc. Yes, some of us have "bad days" but everyone seems to do what they can to deal with whatever issues have arisen and then they move on reasonably calmly. Even people who are reporting here about family members or loved ones who have tested positive don't seem to be going off the deep end emotionally. They're worried, yes. But also hopeful and positive and still reaching out to help others in whatever ways they can.

In contrast, on FB, I see a lot of my non-LC friends having complete melt-downs, seriously freaking out, writing regularly (often at 3AM) about not being able to sleep, deep depression, almost incoherent rage, etc.

I have come to think that, even if it does NOTHING else, our LC/Keto WOEs may be helping to keep our cortisol and adrenaline levels from surging to sky-high levels as we all deal daily with extra stresses.

In times of extreme stress, emotional stability has survival value. So keto may not protect us from corona virus but it just might help us survive the pandemic "crisis."
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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 09:44
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I read that 90% of those hospitalized had one or more of the following problems before catching COVID, Hypertension, Obesity, Diabetes, Heart/Circulatory problems.

So those of us here who have lost weight have one less factor, and probably more.

Bob


What I find is that they always attribute those ailments to poverty but it's not, it's attributed to sugar consumption.
If we loose weigh and avoid all of those ailments, are we suddenly rich people? I think not.
Just because people are not rich doesn't mean they are ignorant, they know very well that if they are diabetic they shouldn't be eating chips and cookies. Like I have said before, chips per pound equal the same price as filet Mignon per pound. People in the US have free will and if that includes a box of donuts instead of eggs and bacon, that's their choice.
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Old Fri, Apr-10-20, 09:46
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Originally Posted by bevangel
I don't think that eating a LC/keto diet will necessarily protect us from coronavirus BUT one thing I have noticed in comparing the posts I see here to ones being made on FB:

People who post here seem, by and large, to be rolling with the punches and taking this crisis in stride. Everyone seems to paying attention to the news but no one is freaking out.

I don't see anybody posting here about constant crying jags, deep depression, uncontrollable rages, inability to cope, etc. Yes, some of us have "bad days" but everyone seems to do what they can to deal with whatever issues have arisen and then they move on reasonably calmly. Even people who are reporting here about family members or loved ones who have tested positive don't seem to be going off the deep end emotionally. They're worried, yes. But also hopeful and positive and still reaching out to help others in whatever ways they can.

In contrast, on FB, I see a lot of my non-LC friends having complete melt-downs, seriously freaking out, writing regularly (often at 3AM) about not being able to sleep, deep depression, almost incoherent rage, etc.

I have come to think that, even if it does NOTHING else, our LC/Keto WOEs may be helping to keep our cortisol and adrenaline levels from surging to sky-high levels as we all deal daily with extra stresses.

In times of extreme stress, emotional stability has survival value. So keto may not protect us from corona virus but it just might help us survive the pandemic "crisis."


Great post. Low carb eating certainly has had a very positive effect on my mood and disposition and that can't help but be of benefit when things get rough as they are now.
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