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Old Wed, Apr-21-21, 11:24
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Over 65s in Ireland urged to eat ‘more meat and dairy’, but told ‘no drinking tea during meals’


A report by the Food Safety Authority of Ireland (FSAI) has offered updated national recommendations to enhance older people’s nutritional health.

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Old Wed, Apr-21-21, 12:15
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I keep urging my 70 year-old sister to eat more protein. She eats protein bars that say protein on the label but don't actually have much protein. I tell her she should be having meat at least once a day. Blargh... she doesn't listen.
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I keep urging my 70 year-old sister to eat more protein. She eats protein bars that say protein on the label but don't actually have much protein. I tell her she should be having meat at least once a day. Blargh... she doesn't listen.


I maintain we don't know anything about aging in our Western societies because people grow up with terrible nutrition, by midlife everyone is on a fistful of damaging drugs to treat the results of the metabolic dysfunctions, and this only accelerates as people move into their senior years. There's more prescriptions and an already bad diet deteriorates.

Age-related fading of smell and taste, general ill health undermining making any effort, and we have our seniors eating junk and sitting around. No wonder we have people living longer... but enjoying it less.
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Old Thu, Apr-22-21, 05:57
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Default ..and no tea drinking during meals

The full headline of the article included this little tidbit: "..and no tea drinking during meals."

The reason given is the drinking hot tea with a meal impedes the absorption of iron and zinc.

Does anyone know how strong the evidence for this is? I would have to give up my morning cuppa with breakfast on flimsy evidence.

Thanks.
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Old Thu, Apr-22-21, 06:45
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This is wonderful news and so different from the American and Canadian dietary guidelines.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

I have shared the article with my Irish-American friends.
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Sadly, so.

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Several studies have found that coffee and other caffeinated drinks can reduce iron absorption. One study found that drinking a cup of coffee with a hamburger meal reduced iron absorption by 39%. Drinking tea, a known inhibitor of iron absorption, with the same meal reduced iron absorption by a whopping 64% ( 3 ).Oct 21, 2017

Do Coffee and Caffeine Inhibit Iron Absorption?


Fortunately, my coffee IS my breakfast: I drink it with cream and coconut oil on an empty stomach. Also, I eat a lot of meat.

I'd find out your iron status before panicking.
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Old Fri, Apr-23-21, 05:47
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Sadly, so.



Fortunately, my coffee IS my breakfast: I drink it with cream and coconut oil on an empty stomach. Also, I eat a lot of meat.

I'd find out your iron status before panicking.


Thanks for the link WereBear. More meat it is!
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Old Fri, Apr-23-21, 11:59
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I remember back when my mother-in-law was told by her doctor that she should be eating more protein. She asked what he would suggest. Peanut butter on crackers. When she told me that, I asked her, Why not just more meat? Nope. Doc says peanut butter on crackers. Sigh.
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Sadly, so.



Fortunately, my coffee IS my breakfast: I drink it with cream and coconut oil on an empty stomach. Also, I eat a lot of meat.

I'd find out your iron status before panicking.


I looked up the link and it mentioned several factors that may affect how much the tea or coffee inhibit iron absorption:
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Thus, coffee and caffeinated drinks are more likely to inhibit the absorption of non-heme iron from plant-based foods but have very little effect on heme iron from animal foods.


So, eat more meat indeed!
Thanks,
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Old Sat, Apr-24-21, 08:37
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Dr Mike Eades (Protein Power) says we can accumulate too much iron in our systems and the only way to ge rid of it is through menstruation or donating a pint of blood periodically. For this reason he recommends a multivitamin that contains no iron.

So if my coffee or tea blocks iron - fine!
I can no longer get rid of my accumulated iron stores.
I don't need any more.
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