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Old Wed, Jan-05-11, 09:28
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What? Democracy and capitalism not working out for you folks?
Democracy yes. Capitalism nope (nor is socialism or communism for that matter).

A technocracy, linked with a direct democracy via proxy votes, would be ideal.
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Democracy is 3 wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
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Democracy is 3 wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for dinner.


Interesting visual
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Old Wed, Jan-05-11, 10:04
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All socioeconomic systems immiserate somebody. Just pick your poison. Personally, I just strive not to be the sheep in a wolf pack.
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Sinatra was famously skinny anyway,

Heh, Peter Lawford starred in a television series called "The Thin Man".

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All socioeconomic systems immiserate somebody. Just pick your poison. Personally, I just strive not to be the sheep in a wolf pack.

Should we feel sorry for you, or are you just trying to make Patrick cry?
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Old Thu, Jan-06-11, 17:28
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What are the attributes of a Technocratic society?

There are many, but a few can be summarized here:

* A thoroughly scientific method of control of the technology of the continent.
* Democratic controls for all non-technical issues and decisions.
* Maximum freedom for all citizens in terms of latitude of purchasing power and personal rights
* Removal of methods of scarcity economics such as money, debt, value, and interest.
* The elimination of political decision-making from technical affairs
* Replacement of these methods with an empirical accounting of all physical resources, products, and services (called Energy Accounting).
* Productive capacity many orders of magnitude higher than currently possible, without requiring any new equipment.
* Decrease in human labor required to produce these amounts through proper use of automation.
* Highest possible standard of living for ALL citizens in terms of income, housing, health care, education, and leisure.
* Sustainable resource management through conservation and industrial efficiency
* Elimination or vast reduction of various social ills, such as poverty, crime, pollution, insecurity, and disease.

Is Technocracy a form of government then, or something else?

Technocracy is not a form of government, such as democracy, or monarchy. It is an economic system, similar in this respect to capitalism or socialism. It differs from other known economic systems however in that it is designed for use in a post-scarcity environment where scarcity-based systems like capitalism and socialism would not work. A good rule to learn would be that scarcity problems require scarcity solutions (like economic systems), while problems of abundance (post-scarcity) require solutions of abundance (i.e. Technocracy).

It's well worth a look.

http://www.technocracy.ca/tiki-index.php?page=Begin

Patrick
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