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Old Sun, Feb-02-20, 13:42
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Plan: IF/Fung IDM
Stats: 375/272.2/175 Female 66 inches
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Progress: 51%
Location: NE Florida
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I am still confused

When does a stall/plateau morph into "the plan isn't working for you"

Haha, if you find the answer to that Iíll give you a big reward, as Iím not so much a ďturtleĒ as a frozen statue, stalled for nearly 11 years now.

I started my low carb journey in 2006 and in fits and starts I lost over 100 pounds between then and early 2009. And then my weight loss stopped dead in the water. In fact I first discovered and joined the forums here in 2009 in the hopes of breaking my then months-long stall and have been a faithful participant ever since. And Iíve tried, over 11 years, just about every single supplement and diet tweak that everyone has tried here, all to no avail. Each time I start out losing a few pounds but then it slowly comes back on until I reach my usual stall weight (in the roughly 275 range).

In 2016 I got a bit discouraged and began eating more carby food again and suddenly found I had ballooned up to 295. Way back in 2006, when I first dropped below 300, I vowed I would never go above that number again, so the scale was alarming. Around then was when I first discovered Dr. Fung and began his IF protocol of 22-24 fasts three days a week and the weight began to drop off quickly and I thought Iíd finally found my dietary nirvana. In less than a month I dropped from 295 to 270.

But then as usual, the weight loss stopped. I continued following his IF plan but never lost any more. Weight just constantly bounced in the 270-275 range. Losing 1-2 pounds on the fasting days and gaining 1-3 on the eating days. Well thatís one example.

Historically I discovered LC back in 1997 with the Protein Power plan. In 14 months I went from 340 pounds down to classic 275, and stalled at that weight again too. Back then Iíd been a founding member of the asdlc Usenet forum and over the next 3-4 years tried every suggestion there to break my stall but nothing worked and after nearly 4 years at 275 I gave up and totally fell face down into the carbs until eventually, 4 years later, I was at an even higher all time high of nearly 400 pounds! 😮

So that started my second LC journey. So this time around Iíve lost over 100 pounds and kept it off but Iím still fat and nothing has worked, just like the first time. I feel like a ďsuccessĒ in that Iíve kept that weight off, but also feel like a ďfailureĒ as Iím still so far from a healthy weight.

So I **know** Iím in a stall! But itís been so many years now I donít even think of it as a stall, but just the way it is. 🙁 And if there is a plan for me I certainly havenít found it.
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Old Sun, Feb-02-20, 14:20
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Ms Arielle Ms Arielle is offline
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Plan: atkins
Stats: 255/214/153 Female 5'8"
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Progress: 40%
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Diet Doctor define this as 3 months on plan and working it. Often a plan need a tweek, because our body needs a bit of help. JEY just put up a thread with link to DietDictors duscussing options at length.
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Old Mon, Feb-03-20, 04:26
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 200/188/175 Female 5 feet 6 inches
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Progress: 48%
Location: Prescott, Arizona, USA
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Thanks for sharing you weight loss history with us, MerPig.
Must be constantly frustrating to follow "the plan" faithfully but see no results. I don't feel so alone in my stall.

Sometimes, I wonder if the set point theory isn't on target.

After reading your story, I think I will stop being obsessed with weight loss. I don't plan to stop weighing and measuring, but I am going to stop giving up this or that to see if it makes a difference - so far none of the foods I have "given up" have made any difference. I do not intend to fast more than 14 hours a day. Since none of my other biomarkers have changed either, I assume this is going to be a long haul. Even if I lose no more weight, it is a healthier way of eating.

Thanks again, I appreciate your sharing. Gives me food for thought - always welcome
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Old Mon, Feb-03-20, 09:32
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Plan: Keto/DrWestman/IF/DrFung
Stats: 222/172/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/25.3%/24%
Progress: 94%
Location: NC
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Merpig, if you have followed Dr Fung or joined his excellent FB page, they suggest for older women with a history of obesity longer IF with alternating patterns. OMAD is just calorie restriction. His definition of IF is a minimum of 36 hours up to 3 days. OMAD is a type of Time Restricted Eating...different from the new DietDoctor guide, but since this is the Dr Fung thread, what I use. https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthr...390#post9356390. Post #7

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Dr. Fung's group has supported some kind of "mixing it up" since the beginning. Fasts should be followed by Feasts. OMAD is just calorie restriction (with the exceptions in this great email post) unless there are a few days of 2 or 3 meals also. The other popular pattern they have encouraged for Weight Loss, especially in older women with a history of obesity, is the 36 or 42 hour fast three days a week. For working folk, M-W-F water only fast. T-TH-Sat first meal is breakfast or lunch, go by your hunger level. Saturday night and Sunday feast. None of these popular protocols are extended fasting.

Last edited by JEY100 : Mon, Feb-03-20 at 13:15.
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Old Mon, Feb-03-20, 09:42
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Ms Arielle Ms Arielle is offline
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Plan: atkins
Stats: 255/214/153 Female 5'8"
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Progress: 40%
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Thanks for sharing you weight loss history with us, MerPig.
Must be constantly frustrating to follow "the plan" faithfully but see no results. I don't feel so alone in my stall.

Sometimes, I wonder if the set point theory isn't on target.

After reading your story, I think I will stop being obsessed with weight loss. I don't plan to stop weighing and measuring, but I am going to stop giving up this or that to see if it makes a difference - so far none of the foods I have "given up" have made any difference. I do not intend to fast more than 14 hours a day. Since none of my other biomarkers have changed either, I assume this is going to be a long haul. Even if I lose no more weight, it is a healthier way of eating.

Thanks again, I appreciate your sharing. Gives me food for thought - always welcome



Set point can be moved according to Dr Fung. JEY gave great points in post above.
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