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Old Fri, Feb-03-23, 04:44
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Mojolissa…this is not for you Requires 2 apps!

But if anyone wants to track their food on Cronometer for one month, learn the Macros of what they are currently eating, and how to change them to meet your own goals, be that weight loss or therapeutic keto, the Macro Masterclass is great.

This class is easy….only looking at 3 Macros. The Micronutrients are separate class now, much better in this shorter class than when they were together…that was overwhelming

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One Week to go until we kick off the Macros Masterclass.

We've now analysed more than 1000 recipes to make it super simple for Optimisers dial in their protein, fat and carbs to reach their goals.

I can't wait to see what happens this round! https://optimisingnutrition.com/macros-masterclass/

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Old Fri, Feb-03-23, 08:50
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Mojolissa…this is not for you

This class is easy….only looking at 3 Macros. The Micronutrients are separate class now, much better in this shorter class than when they were together…that was overwhelming

Starts Feb 11: https://optimisingnutrition.com/macros-masterclass/


On the other hand, I really like the two classes combined and was not overwhelmed. That's probably because I came into it knowing how to use Cronometer and knowing a lot about macros and micros since I had been focused on eating optimal nutrients for a long time. I was so glad when Marty finally offered a class on the subject. Until he came along no on else seemed much interest in the nutrient quality of what people ate. The focus always seemed to be almost exclusively weight loss and sometimes blood sugar (eg Dr Bernstein) Marty really married the issues that seemed most important to me, weight loss, blood sugar regulation and nutrient quality. I highly recommend his courses.
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Old Fri, Feb-03-23, 09:10
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You're right. I was new to Cronometer, and it took me 6 weeks just to "get" my nutrients based on a 2,000 cal/day basis, filling the "buckets" and then moving on to the next nutrients. I don’t love simple food macro tracking, so 6 weeks was an eternity for me to do both. much better now…repetition has helped. I also highly recommend all the classes and doing them in order works well now.


EDIT, Correction. Both Cronometer and Nutrient Optimiser have Web versions. You can do the Classes using a desktop.

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Old Sun, Feb-05-23, 03:44
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Marty Kendall has been writing multiple articles about basic misunderstandings of the role of insulin. New today, "Does Protein Spike Insulin?, and Does it Even Matter?”

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The insulin secreted across the day is proportional to your BMI. So, while lowering carbohydrates will help to reduce the insulin your pancreas needs to produce, the most effective way to lower insulin is to do what it takes to lower your body fat to healthy levels. This includes prioritising (not avoiding) protein to increase satiety.
Insulin and Body Mass Index Graph in https://optimisingnutrition.com/doe...n-2/#more-39211


For me, getting below a BMI of 26-28, and well under 25, made a noticeable difference. Using 1g Protein per pound ideal body weight was about 40%+ Protein. The Protein and Satiety graph visually shows how more protein leads to more Satiety, Eating fewer Calories and Losing Weight without Hunger.


Also,
Insulin is NOT making you fat.
https://optimisingnutrition.com/doe...n-make-you-fat/.

And,
What does Insulin Do in Your Body
https://optimisingnutrition.com/wha...do-in-your-body

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Old Mon, Feb-06-23, 03:57
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For 2023, and the MacroNutrient class that’s starts on Saturday, Marty Kendall is updating or adding new articles on Macros and Protein. There has been loads of controversy on Satiety, Protein Percent on Twitter too.
New articles on blog today:

https://optimisingnutrition.com/nutrition-blog/

Marty gets out his data to reply:

Calculating Your Target Macros: A Data-Driven Approach

https://optimisingnutrition.com/cal...-target-macros/
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Old Mon, Feb-06-23, 08:45
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This is good information, Janet, and Marty seems to respond to any confusion or controversies at just the right time. While I've read this information, it's important for people to understand that protein is really the primary dietary fulcrum in that quantity of protein consumed has everything to do with satiety, ability to lose or gain weight, and ultimately metabolic and physical health. Between Naiman and Kendall combined with some timely research by others, it's clear about the role protein plays. Combining this knowledge with the understanding of protein types and the bio-availability of various protein sources, one can successfully achieve improved weight and overall health. That's why I call protein the fulcrum macro.
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Old Wed, Feb-15-23, 14:59
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The Optimal Blood Sugar for Weight Loss and Fat Burning

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Q: What is the Optimal Blood Sugar Level for Weight Loss and Fat Burning?
A: Just a little lower than normal for YOU.

When your glucose gets below what’s normal for you, you’ll be tapping into your stored energy, including your unwanted body fat.
In this article, we’ll show you how to use your glucose to guide when and what to eat to ensure consistent weight loss.


Excellent new update to this DDF and BG article:

https://optimisingnutrition.com/blo...nd-fat-burning/




What Makes Data Driven Fasting Different?

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1.1 How DDF is Different from Other Fasting Methods?
1.2 How DDF is Different from Calorie Counting
1.3 Are There Any Additional Benefits from Extended Fasting?
1.4 Chasing Your Trigger vs a “Fasting Window”?
1.5 What Is An ‘Extended Fast’? How Long is Too Long?
1.6 How Is Data-Driven Fasting Different from The Fast-Mimicking Diet?
1.7 Would Waiting a Little Longer Be Better?
1.8 Extended Fasting Could Harm Your Healthy Appetite Signals
1.9 Will I Be Getting Enough Autophagy with Data-Driven Fasting?
1.10 Is Calorie Counting The Best Way to Lose Weight?
1.11 Counting Calories Can Cause Disordered Eating

https://optimisingnutrition.com/wha...ting-different/

You can grab the Free DDF Book (over 200 pages) and jump into DDF 101 course at https://www.datadrivenfasting.com/book

Or the next DDF Challenge starts in 10 days, Feb 25th. Before the Macros class is completed but the DDF courses are popular, and there will be 7 courses this year, some overlapping.

Many of the good book reviews for Big Fat Keto Lies are written by people who have enjoyed tremendous success with DDF.
Only $2.99 as a Kindle e-book! Free with Kindle Unlimited.

https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Keto.../dp/B0BRL6TBMF/


Still on the blog and included in some packages, but Kindle allows for annotations, sharing, etc.

Keto Lie #7: Fasting for Longer is Better

https://optimisingnutrition.com/ket...ter/#more-21934

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Old Sat, Feb-25-23, 09:28
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It's all about Satiety this weekend!

The Low-carb Denver conference started yesterday.
https://lowcarbconferences.com
Theme is "Where is Nutrition Headed?"

Yesterday, Dr. Eenfeldt explained how satiety per calorie will work with their LC/Keto/Higher Protein plans [Heard my story was flashed on the big screen as a high protein success ]

Marty posted the new, updated Mother of All Satiety Indexes on his blog.
He will be speaking Sunday.

The Food Satiety Index Score (Updated 2023)
https://optimisingnutrition.com/satiety-index/

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Satiety in nutrition is simply the absense of hunger. A satiating food or meal leaves you satisfied for longer.

To lose weight and improve your metabolic health without unbearable hunger, you need to increase the satiety per calorie value of your food....To cut to the chase, our satiety analysis demonstrates that we achieve greater long-term satiety when we obtain more of the essential nutrients we need from our food.

While all the essential nutrients are important, protein, fibre, calcium, potassium and sodium all have a statistically significant relationship with eating less. Foods and meals that contain more of these nutrients per calorie will satisfy your appetite and empower you to achieve long-term satiety with less energy.




And One Nutrient Density and Satiety Chart to Rule Them All
https://optimisingnutrition.com/one...-rule-them-all/

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For the past six years, we’ve been on a mission to make nutrient density and satiety as simple as possible to empower Optimisers to identify foods and meals that align with their context, preferences and goals.

To bring it all together, we’ve combined our three most powerful nutritional scoring systems into one chart, showing:

nutrient density (per calorie),
nutrient density (per serving),
and our Satiety Index Score!

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Old Sat, Feb-25-23, 22:27
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I just started a round of DDF. It is difficult not to snack before bedtime!
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Old Sun, Feb-26-23, 03:06
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If you joined yesterday's Challenge, you have at least three days to eat whenever you want…enjoy it! [I found you on course members now]

During baseline, when you feel hungry for a snack or even have a beverage with calories, take your BG before. If you want to check your reaction to that snack food, take BG after. Get as many pre-meal/snack BG as you want, point now is getting in touch with your hunger signals (many extended fasters have lost that).

How to Stop Late Night Snacking is not until Day 11

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Old Sun, Feb-26-23, 05:24
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I just started a round of DDF. It is difficult not to snack before bedtime!


Good luck! Getting my satiety signals lets me stop eating hours before bedtime. May it become effortless!
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Old Wed, Mar-29-23, 04:15
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This fascinating article explains Satiety data from another somewhat less complex statistical method than the Multi Variate Analysis, the Principal Component Analysis.

The Key Ingredients to Feel Full and Fueled: The Principal Components of Satiety and Nutrition

Summary:

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The Principal Component Analysis elucidates the Multivariate Analysis and enables us to move beyond the macronutrients to identify the nutrients that align with greater satiety. It also helps us understand how various nutrients are clustered and why some are dominant while others are not statistically significant in the multivariate analysis (shown below).

nutrient low high %

protein (%) 19% 44% -31%

fibre
(g/2000 cal) 11 44 -4.9%

potassium
(mg/2000 cal) 1931 5915 -3.7%

sodium
(mg/2000 cal) 1480 5076 -2.5%

calcium
(mg/2000 cal) 469 1869 -2.3%

folate
(mcg/2000 cal) 167 956 -1.4%

At the highest level, protein % (or protein leverage) has the biggest influence on satiety and how much we eat. Protein and sodium tend to be clustered and can be easier to obtain from meat and seafood.

However, if we want to dig a little deeper, we see fibre also plays a role along with other key nutrients like potassium, sodium, calcium and folate. This cluster of nutrients tends to be easier to get from plant-based foods that complement the nutrient profile of meat and seafood.

The Principal Component Analysis also highlights that it’s not single nutrients but clusters of nutrients that are more prevalent in different foods. Hence, supplements to mimic a high-satiety nutrient profile are unlikely to help increase satiety.

We can then use this understanding to estimate how much of a particular food or meal we might eat and assign a satiety score based on its nutritional profile.



Moving beyond the the most components of Satiety, Protein and Fiber, there is a good explanation of why Potassium ( from green vegetables, not supplements!) also contributes to Satiety, that controls Hunger, so you can eat less.

I have mentioned before that Marty Kendall has created a platform for an interesting, very international, community including members with decades long obesity and Diabetes to medical doctors and to an "evolutionary biologist at the Max Planck Institute and an active member of our Optimising Nutrition Community, who ran this PCAnalysis”

So net down, prioritize protein, and eat it with greens vegetables!

https://optimisingnutrition.com/pri...nts/#more-40233

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Old Wed, Mar-29-23, 06:08
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If a Principal Component Analysis is not your jam, most people start with a DDF Challenge. No need to track food if you do not want to. You could use one of the simple memes from Dr Ted Naiman, this one https://forum.lowcarber.org/showpos...6&postcount=335. or earlier ones in that thread.

The next challenge starts April 8th.
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I'm going to start a new round on 4/4. I think the last round was a washout due to lack of practice. Hopefully this time I can do better.
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Old Thu, Mar-30-23, 04:34
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Great that you are joining again, Nancy. I pick up something every time! One tip is to participate in the course discussions, re-read the Daily Lessons, and even though not required, consider food choices…prioritize protein in first meal, etc. that you know, but sometimes it takes seeing what another member is eating that helps it click.

Awesome results from the February class ranked by lower waking and pre-meal BG, fat and weight loss, summary: Data-Driven Fasting Challenge – February 2023 Results March 30, 2023 by Marty Kendall

https://optimisingnutrition.com/ddf-21-results/

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