I just knew that the Vitamin D princess, Zulieikaa, was going to swoop down and smack you with her vitamin D wand.

She is the lady that knows vitamin D forwards and backwards, in and out, up one side and down the other.

BTW, could I also get you to take a high quality multi-vitamin and fish oil?

Real fish oil has high amounts of vitamin D.

kebaldwin, zuliekaa and all the others:

i have no other purpses then get me very chronic severe full body pains out!!
this is the only reason, and its first and not second.
i first think of what will help me to vanish my pains, and then after i will do it, i will think about good supplement to take so i wont get this or this or this in the future.
all i care about now is my pains.


is it -very- rare for a 18 yo male to have such big vitamin d deficiency?
i mean, it takes time to show up(years), and for example, 26 yo has 8 years advantage on me.
thats wired, because from what i know it takes time to show the deficiency, and i only have this chronic pains for 10 months! so i had probably the deficiency before, but i went to school every morning and got sun! thats why its wired.
its not like i was in the house day by day, all year long.



do you think my problm and pains are vitamin d deficiency?
i mean, there is this thought that fibromyalgia(the doc diagnosed me by tender points) is just a vit d deficiency.
if it was the case millions of people wouldnt suffer now.
but im talking on my case only.
18 yo with severe pains that started after weightlifting and very low level of vitamin d in that age???? sounds wired, right?

also i have wired picture of "fibromyalgia"- although i did have tender points, looks like the pains kept coming, and i can maybe point to 10-15 ---exact--- points(including wrist, fingers etc) that i have pains in them, where as , fibro is more "pains all over".....

so, is it really wired for 18yo to be deficient?
and how many iu of vitamin d a day i should take if im level is 16 ng/ml, and i have severe joint pains, to feel better and make the pains go away??

thanks

I am not picking on you or any other kids ...

but the way kids eat now a days - I am surprised that they make it to 18.

IMHO - the primary thing that Dr Atkins was trying to say -- was nutrition plays a huge role in your overall health. And the way people eat now a days -- they eat a lot -- but get almost zero nutrition.

I find it hard to believe that someone is deficient in only vitamin D - or any other single vitamin or mineral. A lot of type 2 diabetics argue that they are deficient in vitamin (is it B6 or B12). When I know they are deficient usually in a lot of other vitamins as well.

The problem is that if you go to a doctor -- they are trained that each problem has one and only one solution. So your doctor said one vitamin.

But if you switch to a low carb diet, take a high quality mega multi-vitamin and fish oil, and get some exercise (just walking if you are heavy) -- you will find many, many problems are cured.

You are so totally right. I had some minor health problems that I never connected to my diet, and once I got on low-carb and started eating right...BOOM...my health problems went away.

Our point: You may NOT "vanish your pains" with vitamin-D only treatment. It is certainly a factor. But we have learned through years of experience that there are very few physical problems that are completely vanquished with just one pill. Whole-body problems need whole-body cures, and a full-spectrum supplement won't make it any worse.

I don't know why an 18-yo man would face these problems. I can imagine that perhaps the stress level in your life is high; for some people, that's a trigger. Maybe something happened to your mother while you were before you were born that made you more susceptible--something she may never even have noticed at the time. We know that sometimes, even something that happened to the father can be transmitted through the sperm cell.

So: Maybe it will be revealed in time; maybe you are the vanguard or index case of an epidemic of young men in your culture who are suffering from a here-to-fore unknown syndrome. Hard to say when there's only one rat in the study. The trick is, do what you can to get better. You're of limited use to yourself or anybody as long as your pain as debilitating as you are experiencing it.

William Osler, a famous American doctor who has been dead a long time, once said, "The best prescription for a long life is to get a chronic disease early and learn to take care of it." You have the first part. It's possible that by the time you are 40, this may turn out to have been a good thing, although I realize it's hard to see it that way now. Good luck.

BTW: I think you mean "weird." "Wired" almost works in some of your sentences, but does send the reader off in a different direction.

The answer again is it depends. There was a study where 87% of African American adolescents that were tested were deficient in vitamin D...and that was using current lab ranges...so they were really severely deficient.

They tested Arab men and adolescents in the Middle East and they were severely deficient in vitamin D also.

So it could be if you are usually covered with clothes and/or habitually use sunscreen.

But cs_carver is right. It's usually not one deficiency alone but many together...overall nutritional deficiency.

And bone pain is usually a calcium deficiency as well as a vitamin D deficiency. It takes vitamin D to make calcium work.

Again, I've given you a suggestion on how much vitamin D to take already. You can go up from there.

But the easiest and cheapest would be to be as much safe sun as possible.