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Originally Posted by Entropy39
True but I also read about people that don’t lose weight or gain weight first then lose it eventually
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It is all from how you are entering into carnivore.
If you are the type that is internally more damaged and hormones unbalanced etc....along with not eating enough food, you know cutting those kcals down so low and not getting enough good nutrition just to move the number on the scale, you might be one to gain first. Your body will take that food and heal the body, feed your cells and suck up that nutrition......unless you starve down the scale, one can not 'lose weight' unless you have a healthy body to do it for you.
So when the body heals up it will lose those lbs it might have gained.
I gained like 8 lbs and those 8 lbs came off very fast luckily.
But with zero carb we do not limit food intake at all. We eat any time we are hungry and as much as we want. So the body will heal internally, your body will dump toxins as you go thru adaption etc. and ALOT OF people never gain an ounce, they go right into dropping some lbs.
You have to think of the food you eat will effect your body different than others when ya start carnivore cause it truly is the type of thing that is ALL ABOUT your health status and physical body starting this plan.
Here is a little info to read from Dr. Kevin Stock about differences that happen for people coming into carnivore:
Fat Loss (…and Fat Gain) on the Carnivore Diet
Daily I hear another 100lb+ fat loss story.
Frank just eats beef franks and his gut melted away.
Amber’s bacon, egg, and beef diet chiseled out her bikini body.
Success stories abound.
But the stories you aren’t hearing about are carnivore experimenters who gain
body fat.
They follow the diet to the tee and they gain weight.
Why the discrepancy?
Carnivore Starting Point
When starting this diet, everyone comes from a different place.
Some people come from a SAD (Standard American Diet), some from Keto, some from decades of yo-yo dieting. Some start the diet with 40% body fat, some with 4%. Some people have gut issues and insulin resistance. Some are “fat-adapted”and others come from years of fat-restrict eating.
All these different starting points impact the transition to a Carnivore Diet and
whether someone will experience fat melting off their waistline or the scale tipping in the wrong direction.
John
Let’s say John is a 51-year-old male who has eaten a SAD diet for decades.
He is pre-diabetic, 65lbs overweight, and doesn’t exercise. He decides to
experiment with the Carnivore Diet.
In the first 30 days he’s loses over 20lbs. He’s excited.
He decides to extend the experiment another 30 days. Another 15lbs fall off.
The experiment now has an indefinite timeline. All he’s doing is eating meat until he’s full. He prefers ribeye and fatty beef cuts. He generally eats 2 times a day, though occasionally he eats just one, and other days he eats 3 meals. He listens to his appetite.
And 9 months down the road, he’s loving meat more than ever. It’s all he craves. He’s lost over 50lbs of fat and gained over 10lbs of muscle. He looks better than he did at 30. His blood sugar has dropped, and his energy has skyrocketed.
This story is not an outlier. This is common.
But Sally had a different experience…
Sally
Let’s say Sally is a 42-year-old female who has watched what she’s eaten for
years.
In the past she’s tried vegan, the Mediterranean Diet, and most recently a
Ketogenic Diet. She watches her calories and tracks her macros like a scientist. She does an hour of cardio 3 times per week and some light weights. She’s gotten some good results with Keto but her fat loss has stalled. She also hasan autoimmune disorder that hasn’t resolved.
She saw what the Carnivore Diet has done for John, so she decides to experiment herself.
She follows the diet to the tee – she “eats meat. drinks water.”
Unlike John however, Sally is ravenously hungry. She’s almost embarrassed by
how much she eats.
She knows from the “Ultimate 30-Day Guide to Going Full Carnivore” that she
isn’t supposed to track calories or macros but eat until satisfied. So she does.
The first 30 days go by and she’s gained 5lbs!
She wonders if she should go back to Keto. She considers staying Carnivore but cutting back on calories. But she remembers the “Warning” section in the 30-day guide she read. No tinkering.
She decides to stick with the experiment another 30 days, because her energy has been amazing, and she’s seen improvements in her autoimmune issue. Another 30 days go by, and another couple of pounds are added to the scale.
Sally doesn’t know what to do. She’s feeling better than she can ever remember, but her weight is going in the wrong direction.
What’s going on…?
John vs Sally
John and Sally started the same diet from completely different points.
John was obese and had never restricted a calorie in his life. His diet was
composed of junk. A switch to the Carnivore Diet, or any diet, would lead to
weight loss. Most people see dramatic improvements in body composition because most people are overweight/obese. They, and the scale, move in the right direction no matter how many steaks or how much bacon they eat.
John had some transition issues. He had some sugar cravings the first couple weeks but easily overcame them by eating more steak. His rapid success led to more motivation and more success.
Sally started off far leaner than John. She also couldn’t remember a time when she wasn’t restricting her diet in some way. When Sally was told she could eat as much meat as she wants without measuring or monitoring, two floodgates broke open.
1. The first floodgate was the mental switch from famine to feast.
2. The second floodgate was the complete nutrition meat provided her
malnourished body.
For decades her body wasn’t getting the protein and fat it desired. She was
deficient in micronutrients as well as quality macronutrients.
She was malnourished.
And when she finally started giving her body the nourishment it craved, it wanted to get as much of it as it could.
I was a “Sally.”
I came from a restricted Keto diet. I gained weight and fat when I started. My body needed it. My brain needed it.
It can take time for a “Sally” to regulate her appetite, to fix her dysregulated
metabolism and hormones, and to “get healthy.”
-----------So the key is if weight gain happens you just sit back and heal and adapt and change....then the lbs that were gained will come off but your body must change first. Remember also not that many gain like you read about
and the only way to know you thru all this.....on a personal level of what will go down for you.....is to jump in and go for it!!
edited to say the above with great info from Dr Stock is at Justmeat.com
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