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Old Mon, Mar-01-10, 12:16
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Plan: Protein Power
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I love the Protein Power low carb diet. The only thing that concerns me is i seem to be eating too many fat grams. My carb intake stays at 30 grams but my fat intake goes way up. Does anyone know of foods that are low in fat and low in carbs? I used to eat low fat(weight watchers) so it scares me to consume so many fat grams. If you buy low carb there is more fat and if you buy low fat then there are more carbs. Can't seem to win. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old Mon, Mar-01-10, 12:26
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grammy, I'm sure others will chime in and I don't have but a minute here, but one benefit of being a low-carber is that you find out how beneficial fat is. There is so much scientific informatin coming out that exonerate fat and show how good it is for you. Don't be afraid of it!
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Old Mon, Mar-01-10, 12:35
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Plan: Gluten Free, Low Carb
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What is your typical diet? How much fat, in your opinion, is too much fat? Fat is your friend in this diet, in the form of oils and animal fats mostly. Dairy shouldn't (in my opinion) be a major component of your fat consumption, but a small portion.

Other things to assess are, Do you feel good? Are you losing weight? Are you craving? Are you still hungry shortly after eating a meal? In a lot of ways, fat keeps us from stalling out with our weight loss, keeps us from craving things we shouldn't have, and keeps us full. Dietary fat does not make you fat.
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Old Mon, Mar-01-10, 13:23
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I love the Protein Power low carb diet. The only thing that concerns me is i seem to be eating too many fat grams. My carb intake stays at 30 grams but my fat intake goes way up. Does anyone know of foods that are low in fat and low in carbs? I used to eat low fat(weight watchers) so it scares me to consume so many fat grams.
I spent some time with Protein Power too.

Weight Watchers scares people about fat grams because it's a higher carb plan, and it's not a good idea to get fuel from both sources at the same time. You are right that low carb advises to get food energy from fat and keep the carbs low.

I feel best with fat grams one and a half times my protein grams, per day. So if my protein requirement is 60 g, then my fat is 90 g or I am starving. Or if you like percent of calories, at least 60% or more from fat. Because my body's stored fat can only release so much at a time, and if I don't intake food energy, the whole machine shuts down.

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If you buy low carb there is more fat and if you buy low fat then there are more carbs. Can't seem to win.
Hm, sounds like you don't want food energy, because you have extra weight? As if by removing all sources of food energy, (fat and carbs), you might lose faster? I'm sorry little bear, it doesn't work that way. I tried to go as low fat as possible and that's how I know my lower limit of fat. Too low really is rotten feeling and doesn't even work.

After my 5 (!) failed attempts with weight watchers I always had this idea of metabolism as "burning calories" like a barbecue. As a little tiny deconditioned woman I had a little tiny hibachi so I had to eat little tiny food so my "furnace" (the hibachi) could burn it all.

Now I think very differently. Now I think of metabolism like a big strong stoker guy (or gal) shoveling coal into a furnace. (anyone remember that engine room scene from Titanic?) The stoker is my metabolism, the coal is strictly fuel - stored fat. The good food I eat makes the stoker really strong and fast, and the coal he is shoveling is my stored fat. So the better I eat, the more coal gets burned. But! I can't eat too much because if I eat more than the stoker needs, the extra food turns into more coal!

bwha ha ha ha
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Old Sun, May-09-10, 13:12
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Plan: hybrid Atkins/Paleo
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After my 5 (!) failed attempts with weight watchers I always had this idea of metabolism as "burning calories" like a barbecue. As a little tiny deconditioned woman I had a little tiny hibachi so I had to eat little tiny food so my "furnace" (the hibachi) could burn it all.

Now I think very differently. Now I think of metabolism like a big strong stoker guy (or gal) shoveling coal into a furnace. (anyone remember that engine room scene from Titanic?) The stoker is my metabolism, the coal is strictly fuel - stored fat. The good food I eat makes the stoker really strong and fast, and the coal he is shoveling is my stored fat. So the better I eat, the more coal gets burned. But! I can't eat too much because if I eat more than the stoker needs, the extra food turns into more coal!


I just came in here to say that I love this description. I could use this sort of better mental image of my "engine room"!
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Old Tue, May-11-10, 12:41
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Plan: Keto (LCHFMP) + IF
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After my 5 (!) failed attempts with weight watchers I always had this idea of metabolism as "burning calories" like a barbecue. As a little tiny deconditioned woman I had a little tiny hibachi so I had to eat little tiny food so my "furnace" (the hibachi) could burn it all.

Now I think very differently. Now I think of metabolism like a big strong stoker guy (or gal) shoveling coal into a furnace. (anyone remember that engine room scene from Titanic?) The stoker is my metabolism, the coal is strictly fuel - stored fat. The good food I eat makes the stoker really strong and fast, and the coal he is shoveling is my stored fat. So the better I eat, the more coal gets burned. But! I can't eat too much because if I eat more than the stoker needs, the extra food turns into more coal!

bwha ha ha ha


I'm glad I came over to "lurk" on the protein board, because thinking of my metabolism as a tiny hibachi changing to shoveling coal into a furnace was really cool.
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Old Mon, Mar-01-10, 14:35
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Fat is good. Carbs are bad. Low fat is bad.
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Old Mon, Mar-01-10, 18:50
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Plan: Protein Power
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thanks everyone for your input...a website i am using for keeping a food log says i should have 70g Protein and 47g Fat. It is really hard to stay around 47g fat when i am keeping my carbs at 30g. i always seem to be around 70g fat. Doesn't too much fat clog your arteries and you can get a stroke? i do feel great eating like this and i not seem to be hungry or tired. i am just concerned about too much fat.
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Old Tue, Mar-02-10, 16:18
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thanks everyone for your input...a website i am using for keeping a food log says i should have 70g Protein and 47g Fat. It is really hard to stay around 47g fat when i am keeping my carbs at 30g. i always seem to be around 70g fat. Doesn't too much fat clog your arteries and you can get a stroke? i do feel great eating like this and i not seem to be hungry or tired. i am just concerned about too much fat.
That sounds like a bodybuilding or fitness type of food log - they sometimes say have good protein, but then turn around and say low fat, low carb. Ignore that part!

But NO low carb authors say to keep your fat lower than your protein, in grams per day, as far as I know.

No, too much fat doesn't clog your arteries, unless you also have a lot of carbs. Even then, it's the carbs that makes the difference, not the fat.

No, too much fat doesn't give you a stroke, unless you also have a ton of carbs. Same problem - excess carbs and then lots of fats, bad idea.
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Old Tue, Mar-02-10, 16:28
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I am eating at least 130 g of fat a day, most days way more and I have never felt better! Most of it is saturated from beef and coconut oil. If you want to eat low carb you have to eat high fat, high protein is really bad for you, probably almost as bad as high carb. A low carb diet should be high-fat, moderate protein and low carbs or else it hurts you.
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Old Tue, Mar-02-10, 19:49
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thanks everyone for your input...a website i am using for keeping a food log says i should have 70g Protein and 47g Fat. It is really hard to stay around 47g fat when i am keeping my carbs at 30g. i always seem to be around 70g fat.


70g protein x 4.1 cal/g = 287 calories
30g carb x 4.1cal/g = 123 cal
47g fat x 9.4cal/g = 442 cal

grand total 852 cal

Yes, that would be hard!
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Old Thu, Mar-04-10, 23:41
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Plan: Fung-inspired fasting
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thanks everyone for your input...a website i am using for keeping a food log says i should have 70g Protein and 47g Fat. It is really hard to stay around 47g fat when i am keeping my carbs at 30g. i always seem to be around 70g fat. Doesn't too much fat clog your arteries and you can get a stroke? i do feel great eating like this and i not seem to be hungry or tired. i am just concerned about too much fat.

That's not Protein Power. Read as much of Eades' blog as you can. He advocates high fat.

Last edited by bike2work : Fri, Mar-05-10 at 12:19. Reason: typo
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Old Fri, Mar-05-10, 10:08
grammy-s grammy-s is offline
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Plan: Protein Power
Stats: 151.7/140.0/138 Female 67 inches
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the food log i am using is from Calorie Counter website. i ignore their recommendations for carbs(which is way too high) and keep them at 30g/day. i was concerned their recommendation for fat intake was 47g and i was consuming around 70-80. but then i researched further and discovered that it is the saturated fat that you want to keep low and it is ok to have high fat. that does that make sense? i realize that website counts calories and not carbs & protein to lose weight but it has a great food log and recipe builder to use. so i will ignore what they say about fat, like i do for carbs. i am going to continue to keep my saturated fat low though.
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Old Mon, May-10-10, 09:59
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Plan: Protein Power
Stats: 151.7/140.0/138 Female 67 inches
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I just wanted to let everyone know i reached my goal weight of 140 this week! YEA! now i think i am going to go for 2 more lbs. i have re-read Protein Power and am getting info from Calorie Cout website about low carb eating also. I am consuming lots of fat now and still losing weight. I have bought low carb cookbooks and loving eating like this. My husband is also eating like me so it is very east to stay on track. I don't even miss my favorite foods.
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Old Mon, May-10-10, 14:14
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Plan: Atkins/PP/GI
Stats: 235/212.7/150 Female 5 feet 4 inches
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Congratulations! You are an inspiration.

Have you tried George Stella's cookbooks? His food is so good and most always calls for "common" ingredients, not some of the far out stuff I've never heard of.

Again, good job!
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