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Old Fri, Apr-27-18, 00:16
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As Jean mentioned above, contrary to most cardiologists, Dr Davis believes a CAC score can be lowered. He says he has done it without medications. Even if you are not part of his Undoctored forum, he eventually sends out in his regular newsletter the transcripts on some topics.

Here he lists the six strategies to help reduce a CAC.

https://blog.undoctored.com/reduce-heart-scan-score/

This is some of what Dr. Davis recommends:

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Fish oil: 3600 mg/day EPA + DHA
Fish oil: we use a true therapeutic dose, which is 3600 milligrams of EPA and DHA (not of fish oil, but of EPA and DHA). Thatís why you canít use krill oil; itís too trivial a dose. Thatís why you canít use flaxseed oil or other sources of linolenic acid. You want the EPA and DHA of fish oil, 3600 mg, broken into two different doses: 1800 mg morning, 1800 mg in the evening.


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Vitamin D: 25-OH vitamin D 60-70- ng/mL
Next is vitamin D. When I added in vitamin D about 10 so years ago, it was the first time I watched heart scan scores plummet ó dramatic reductions. Before I added vitamin D, we were lucky to get a 0% year-over-year (lack of increase in a heart scan score) or slowed it down maybe 9% per year increase, or maybe a very modest, maybe 3% reduction, from one year to the next. When I added vitamin D, thatís what we started seeing 24% reduction, 36% reduction, 48% reduction, 72 ó incredible amounts of regression, of reduction in the heart scan score. So Vitamin D is crucial.


Bob Niland who answers questions on Dr. Davis's articles shared that he buys Members Mark (Sams) 1200mg Double strength fish oil.
I compared it to one my DH picked up at whole foods and I would have to take 5-6 of the brand he picked up to equal one of the Members Mark brand, so I'm returning the one DH bought. ( I ordered MM brand 2 days ago so waiting for delivery)

https://www.samsclub.com/sams/mm-fi...Id=prod19720090

It also has 2000IU of vitamin D per cap.
EPA and DHA is =540 total so about 3-4 caps in the AM to reach 1800mg and 3-4 1800mg in the PM as Davis recommends.
(as apposed to 15-20 of the brand my DH bought and 2x per day is just crazy so it's going back!)

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Old Sat, Apr-28-18, 19:13
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Bob Niland who answers questions on Dr. Davis's articles shared that he buys Members Mark (Sams) 1200mg Double strength fish oil.
I compared it to one my DH picked up at whole foods and I would have to take 5-6 of the brand he picked up to equal one of the Members Mark brand, so I'm returning the one DH bought. ( I ordered MM brand 2 days ago so waiting for delivery)

https://www.samsclub.com/sams/mm-fi...Id=prod19720090

It also has 2000IU of vitamin D per cap.
EPA and DHA is =540 total
so about 3-4 caps in the AM to reach 1800mg and 3-4 1800mg in the PM as Davis recommends.
(as apposed to 15-20 of the brand my DH bought and 2x per day is just crazy so it's going back!)


I got my Sam's delivery of the fish oil caps today, they have 2000IU of D so that's good. I took 2 with food and we'll see if there is any aftertaste.
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Old Wed, Jun-13-18, 17:16
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Putting Amy Berger's new post on high cholesterol here, because most of it is about the CAC and has links to her previous long post on the CAC on another site.
http://www.tuitnutrition.com/2018/0...-keto.html#more
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It's Heart Month again

In two years, the price has been dropping around the country. Think more a function of excess time available on new expensive CT equipment, but the AHA recommendation may be helping demand too. The imaging center we used two years ago is again $99 for Heart Month, but...

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Anybody in the south Florida area. Miami baptist health has a deal $49.00 Offer available February 1-28, 2019 ; must schedule appointment by February 15. A doctorís prescription and appointment are required Https://baptisthealth.net/en/lp/pag...eart-month.aspx

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Old Thu, Feb-07-19, 08:00
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Putting Amy Berger's new post on high cholesterol here, because most of it is about the CAC and has links to her previous long post on the CAC on another site.
http://www.tuitnutrition.com/2018/0...-keto.html#more
Excellent!



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Old Wed, Feb-20-19, 13:03
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New podcast with Ivor Cummins.
http://lowcarbmd.com/episode-16-ivor-cummins

About minute 23:40, he starts listing other risk calculators.
A few include CAC, he thinks the Astro-Charm the best:

http://astrocharm.org

MESA another one: https://ebmcalc.com/MESA.htm

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Old Thu, Feb-21-19, 08:56
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Thanks for the podcast link, Janet. I listened to it on my walk last night. I have to admit that there were parts of it that I didn't really want to hear -- like the part where they discussed a subset of the population where a statin might be of real benefit. I met the criteria for that group. It seems that Ivor is walking back a little on his previous belief that stopping the progression of plaques -- dealing with the root causes - is all that need be done. People, like me, with a higher CAC score may want to consider statins to be of benefit is not news that I wanted to hear. But as they point out in the podcast, of those with higher CAC scores, do statins provide benefit only to those who continue to progress down the CVD road -- or is the benefit universal? That is the $64 question. And as they said, it is not the financial interests of big Pharma to conduct a study to answer that question. They'll sell more drugs with the blanket coverage of the entire group. I'd like to put the statin issue to rest, but it never seems to go away.
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Old Thu, Feb-21-19, 11:57
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Too many with vested interests to remove the statin distortions. It won't go away for quite some time. Listening to SiriusXM doctor radio, the weekly cardiology show hosted by Dr. Fred Feit, who is as firmly in the statin camp as can be imagined, regularly reinforces the statin benefits and uses LDL as an indicator to recommend statins for those who don't have CVD or a previous heart event history. Given recent findings in the PURE study indicating reduced mortality for those with higher LDL, we are currently living in a bizarro world. It will take some time to get sorted.
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