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Old Thu, Jun-13-19, 06:12
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Default Whole Milk back in school lunches?

Just checking our local news headlines this morning and came across this article: https://www.phillyvoice.com/milk-sc...ey-legislation/

Unfortunately, it looks like the reason behind is not a rethinking on fat. Instead, it looks like an attempt to increase milk's palatability (in an attempt to increase dairy sales).

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Old Thu, Jun-13-19, 09:12
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Making real milk available in schools once again is a GOOD thing!

I agree that full-fat and 2% milk are more palatable to kids. But I don't think making kid's school milk options more palatable will sharply increase dairy sales. My experience (as a former teacher) is that school lunches come loaded with a carton of milk on the tray whether the kid wants it or not. He/She can choose between the available options but he/she cannot simply decline. The milk comes with the tray. Period.

So, the number of cartons of milk handed out with school lunches depends on the number of school lunches served, not on how tasty the particular types of milk put on the trays is.

However, with even the poorest kids, unless they are literally starving, if they don't like what is on the school lunch tray, they toss it out uneaten. I suspect that a huge percentage of those cartons of fat-free and 1% milk currently being distributed wind up getting tossed in the trash, oftentimes without ever being opened. But those trashed cartons of milk don't affect dairy industry sales figures.

So, I think the real hope is that if kids are given more palatable real or 2% milk options, they'll actually DRINK more of it thereby actually consuming the vitamins and minerals milk contains. For many children, especially those living in poverty, a daily dose of real milk could make a substantial difference in their health.

I hope the bill passes.
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Old Thu, Jun-13-19, 11:05
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Of course, for the kids already tossing their milk cartons what are the chances that they will continue to toss, either not realizing or not caring that a change has been made. If they have already decided that they don't like milk they aren't very likely to try again just because it is better for them.
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Old Thu, Jun-13-19, 12:55
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One hopes that the kids will continue to be given a choice so that those who actually like fat free or 1% milk can continue to get what they like.

Among the rest, at least a few of the kids sometimes have whole milk at home and know the difference between watery tasteless fat free stuff and real milk. If those few start asking for whole milk and enthusiastically drinking it, maybe their friends will notice and follow suit....and at least give the "new" milk options a try.

More and more studies are showing that kids who drink whole milk have lower BMIs and higher levels of vitamin D than those who drink fat-free or 1% milk.

Unfortunately, the Obama led legislation that led to only skim milk or 1% milk being offered on school lunches was another example of governmental good intentions going awry.
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After witnessing many schools providing fat free flavored (chocolate) milk to students, this is a vast improvement. The alternative was simply sugared water, which in my opinion, should be totally eliminated.
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Our local Aldi's now has whole milk yogurt, even in single servings.
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What needs eliminating is the sugar laden chocolate milk. I didnt know school offered it for years. My son choose the chocolate of course and no matter how much I talked to his teachers they would not oversee a plain whole milk choice..... afterall, teachers didnot go to lunch with the students, only the aides.

My kids are teens now and dont get milk at school at all.... just lots of sugar. They drink water.

Im glad the little ones can get whole plain milk....I had to argue with pediatrition when she pushed for 2 percent.....the 2 percent was a givernment ploy to reduce calories......

Fortunately I had read DANDR and didnt beleive fat was the cause of obesity.....and that children need the fats for brain development.
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Our local Aldi's now has whole milk yogurt, even in single servings.


Really? In plain? I need that while I'm traveling later this summer.
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Our local Aldi's now has whole milk yogurt, even in single servings.

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Really? In plain? I need that while I'm traveling later this summer.



I buy the quarts of whole milk plain greek yogurt at aldi, and saw the quarts of whole milk plain regular yogurt - will need to look for the single serving size!
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Old Mon, Jun-24-19, 03:51
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I buy the quarts of whole milk plain greek yogurt at aldi, and saw the quarts of whole milk plain regular yogurt - will need to look for the single serving size!
Is this the one?

whole milk plain yogurt

ingredients look good!

Simply Nature whole milk plain yogurt.
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Old Mon, Jun-24-19, 15:04
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Is this the one?

whole milk plain yogurt

ingredients look good!

Simply Nature whole milk plain yogurt.
The only criticism I have with the ingredients in that one is that they use pectin in it. Nothing wrong with pectin as such - just that it's not a naturally occurring ingredient in yogurt, and if you ever try to strain a yogurt made with one of those ingredients (in order to make greek yogurt or yo-cheese), it won't strain properly - I remember trying one time and it all just runs straight through the strainer.



The one I buy is just the regular (non-organic) Happy Farms plain TRADITIONAL GREEK yogurt. I'm assuming the traditional simply refers to it not being the new-fangled fat free version. It has the live and active cultures in it of course. However, it's made from skim milk, and cream. I'm sure using skim milk with added cream is simply a cheaper way to make it. (I certainly can't complain about the price - on a budget here)
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