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Old Mon, Jan-11-21, 18:15
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Default Marty Kendall: Big Fat Keto Lies!

Keto Lie #1: ‘Optimal ketosis’ is a goal and more ketones are better
Keto Lie #2: You have to be ‘in ketosis’ to burn fat
Keto Lie #3: You should eat more fat to burn more fat
Keto Lie #4: Protein should be avoided because of gluconeogenesis
Keto Lie #5: Fat is a 'free food' because it doesn’t elicit an insulin response
Keto Lie #6: Food quality is not important, it’s all about insulin and avoiding carbs
Keto Lie #7: Fasting for longer is better
Keto Lie #8: Insulin toxicity is enemy #1
Keto Lie #9: Calories don’t count
Keto Lie #10: Stable blood sugars will lead to fat loss
Keto Lie #11: You should ‘eat fat to satiety’ to lose body fat
Keto Lie #12: If in doubt, keep calm and keto on
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Old Tue, Jan-12-21, 08:11
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I haven't read the book, but from personal experience I can agree that these are indeed lies. The big ones I just realized are#4 and #5.

When I tried keto in the past, I tried to follow the rule of 80-90% fat (lie #5). Not only was it impossible to do if you live with someone who doesn't want to eat this way, I never felt good doing this and never lost weight.

It's only when I upped my protein intake (lie #4) and lowered the fat was I able to enjoy what eat, be able to easily sustain the approach even with a husband who still wants his carbs, AND lose pounds and inches.

I'd like to read more, but don't want to spend the money on another keto book at the moment.
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Old Wed, Jan-13-21, 10:10
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Marty Kendall has posted both the entire Introduction and the History of Low Carb Movements of the book on his website:


Low Carb history:

And his blog is Indexed by Topic, very organized if you have a specific topic you would like to read about.

Even though Dr. Westman never pushed fats and never limited protein, I have had weight loss by increasing protein even more, and surprisingly by adding back more vegetable and fermented dairy carbs. (Keto Lie #6) = Nutrient Density
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Old Sun, Jan-31-21, 12:03
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Marty has now posted Lies 1, 2, and #3 on his blog:

Also a terrific interview with Dr Ted Naiman, starting with:

It was SO much fun to finally get to chat Ted Naiman and discuss all that we've learned (and had to unlearn) over the last five years. Ted has done heaps of interviews and podcasts about what he now believes, so I wanted to dig behind the memes to understand how he has changed what he believes.

We covered:

- Why he now believes the Carb Insulin Hypothesis is dead.
- What does insulin really do?

- The Personal Fat Threshold - Energy Toxicity - Protein Leverage - Food quality - Nutrient density - The limitations of extended fasting. - The most common advice that he gives his patients that works every time. - Advice for someone just starting on their journey? - What Ted's daily eating routine looks. - Does Ted take supplements? - What are the top five foods you eat most often? - How do you motivate clients when they are not able to comply fully? - Thoughts on biohacking? - Ted's dreams for the future of nutrition. I hope you have as much fun listening in as we did chatting.

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