Fri, Apr-19-19, 09:01
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Senior Member
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Plan: Very LC, Higher Protein
Stats: 227/186/185
BF:
Progress: 98%
Location: Herndon, VA
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Originally Posted by teaser
There was a mouse study, 25 different diets, looking at lifespan. One of the factors, besides carb versus protein versus fat--diets were from ketogenic to very low fat high carb--was calorie density. This was controlled by adding cellulose to the chow in varying amounts. All but one of the lowest calorie density--that is, highest cellulose fiber diets--were at the very bottom of the list for length of lifespan. Apparently sometimes cellulose kills. There was another study, sort of at the beginning of the modern rebirth of studying ketogenic diets, the study was called something like " A ketogenic diet results in a unique metabolic state in mice." That study had a false start, six months in the mice on the keto diet were dying too much, and had an implausibly short life span. They switched from purified cellulose to "wheat middlings" which didn't kill the animals so quickly. Okay, it's mice. But if bacon was this deadly in mice, they'd never shut up about it.
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Wheat middlings, more evidence that attempting to control ingredients in a non-human metabolism to discover a clear dietary influence in humans is impossible, especially in mice
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