https://www.medpagetoday.com/specia...features/108857



The USDA My Plate was forced on people without any randomized trials.

From Nina Teicholz, Unsettled Science:

I don't know exactly how far back the USDA MyPlate goes, but in their 2014 evidence review there were at least a handful of trials that informed their conclusions, though certainly the vast majority were prospective cohort studies.

More of both types of studies were then captured in their 2020 evidence review, but the majority were still observational there as well.

I get what you're saying, the number of RCTs incorporated into USDA recommendations is definitely small, but it's not quite as small as zero.

New trials are planned looking into ketogenic diets.

Personally, ive noticed better cognative function by going more carnivore.....and stopping dairy, and veggies. Saddly.

In the USA ,our grains and veggies get multiple sprayings with fungicides and pesticides.....yet who talks about the health impact on people, especially the human gi.. Im trialing an elimination diet n=1. Starting with several weeks on carnivore. On day two and already feeling better.

I quit eating yogurt a few weeks ago and my clogged sinuses quickly cleared up. It had been my go-to snack and quick lunch.

I just did a buttermilk test.

Once I felt good, and no buttermilk for a day or two, added 1/2 cup at yesterdays lunch. ( otherwise only eggs,and steak and salt) . By bedtime congestion was setting in. Horrible night sleeping, or not sleeping. Mouth breathing. Trying to maintain more upright position. Lots of sliding down and pushing back up to near sitting position.


Otherwise my brain is more lucid than I expected for such poor sleep. Likely a few days on meats is helping ketone levels.
Buttermilk is not good for me.

The sad thing is that people with mental illnesses often lack the ability to stick to a strict diet. It isn't easy for those of us without extra challenges. I know people I'm sure that would benefit, but it would be useless to suggest it.

Nancy,sometimes progress is baby steps.

I learned about DANDR before my children were born. I credit low carb with two pregnancies and eating higher quality food during pregnancy.

I threw out the 300g carb , 3 snacks a day meal plan from dietitian, who I had an appoint due to gestational diabetes.

My kids started with cheerios but then I served leftover dinner for breakfast. No school lunches, only brown bag: cheese sticks, apple, yogurt.

Kept bots active, in one sport, soccer. Let them be boys playing outside.

Oldest has made it thru 4 years of university despite Asperger's and ADHD diagnosis. He used the food skills to pick better quality food as he knows food affects his function.

After talking with him last night, I realize his verbal/ conversational skills actually seem normal.

It took 20 years to get to this point.

Keep trying. Keep testing options. If you fall off the wagon , get back on. If you fall ten times, get up ,11 times.

Cry as needed, then go stand in the sunshine.

This is a process...... hugs

I agree that if someone is otherwise fairly functional, it would be a hard sell - unless they hit that "fed up" point like a lot of us here were to try this "crazy" diet in the first place. It seems a lot of the early adopters (for the lack of a better term) have exhausted all other avenues of treatment. Example: Dr Chris Palmer's patient Tom. The guy was in his 30s and still had to be cared for (presumably) by his dad. It's certainly worth a try, considering it's practically free, involves no pharmaceuticals, and has little or no side effects. I think every patient should be presented with all of their options.

I'm the same way. I'm officially of two minds! But I think it's a good thing: the combo comes up in 70% of Spectrum women, it is theorized. Don't know about males. But they got the whole Spectrum so wrong, for so long, all these labels can be less help than they seem.

Autistic traits can be too set in their ways, and ADHD is all over the place, but AuDHD is just right

And he's right. Increasing my protein and fat until plants dwindled in the rear view mirror felt so WRONG, and yet my body said it felt so RIGHT, and I have to listen to my body. While I used to wrestle with that sense of wrongness, no longer. That's all marketing, including my grandmother trying to get me eating vegetables

Between my unique nervous system and a life of brain work, I think I might need more protein than the average person. Then add in how much I'm trying to heal from.

My doctor prescribes protein

In terms of mood, I remember so many of us getting through the cravings and getting relief from depression, anxiety, and fatigue.

Eating better started the process. Currently I treat my cortisol resistance with niacin, a neurohormone, and L-theanine, a neurotransmitter. It works far better than any psychiatric drug I've tried.

Being undiagnosed led to a lifetime of stress. For many people, all they need would be a good diet for them.

Another key insight that came to me: silencing those blood sugar swings did a lot of the work in my first month on Atkins. I definitely have mood improvement on a low carb diet, and I continue to do so.

Adding another study on diet and depression.
Dietary Nutrient Deficiencies and Risk of Depression (Review Article 2018–2023). https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/15/11/2433


Jumping into carnivore based only on ribeyes and ground meat, provides some important nutrients but not all. It is worth tracking nutrients for a week to learn the nutrient density of whatever version of "keto" you are eating.

Read in full here.

Washington post Added a story about this study in latest news section.

High-fat keto diet may help people with serious mental illness

https://wapo.st/3U4P72o

For instance, now bi-polar is seen as a neurodivergent condition which worsens under stress, instead of a "disorder" they can medicate.

Carrie Fisher might have been a tragic martyr to this misunderstanding. Patty Duke developed it after an abusive childhood. Now that we are understanding the neurodiverse nervous system, we see that any deviation from the norm can, after all, be normal.

Being the trifecta of these conditions myself (autistic/gifted/ADHD) I can say that my condition has improved very much on carnivore, as so many autoimmune folks have experienced. And I've discovered this condition is very common in the ND community.

We might NEED the ketones more. All brains work better in ketosis, but getting there, for the neurodiverse, might even need lower carbs to get there, compared to someone with a neurotypical nervous system. That's been studied extensively, simply by force of numbers.

Also, these conditions DO NOT include psychopathy, which more and more is about a brain area congenitally unable to develop fully, and in some cases this stunts their whole brain and leads them into criminal activity. But in other cases, they are undetectable except by brain scan.

And the ultimate irony of all this is that neurotransmitters, the stuff I use to treat myself because psychiatric drugs don't work on me, were the next step in research.

But the drug companies could make money on THAT. So they came up with drugs to mimic the effect, but they were not the magic pill we were looking for.

My point is I don't need to be medicated for any of my issues. Food really is my medicine.