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Old Thu, Feb-06-20, 20:01
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Default VA tests Keto diet in diabetic patients

And the skeptics went bananas.
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/924871

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A partnership between the Department of Veterans Affairs and Silicon Valley startup Virta Health Corp. is focusing attention on the company's claim that it provides treatment "clinically-proven to safely and sustainably reverse type 2 diabetes" without medication or surgery.

The assertion is at the heart of an ongoing debate about the keto diet's effect on diabetes. Some diabetes experts are skeptical of Virta's promise and are expressing concerns that the company's partnership with the federal government is giving the diet too much credence.
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Old Thu, Feb-06-20, 22:10
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Interesting, obesity has been a problem for sometime in the military.

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VA now. What's next - the chow line?
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VA now. What's next - the chow line?


I understand the military has a problem with overweight soldiers.

Yet, I think they get enough exercise. I'm sure they are being fed with the latest nutritional research. It MUST be all the cheetos they buy in the bars.
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Old Fri, Feb-07-20, 05:26
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In April, the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a nonprofit research and advocacy organization that focuses on the role of nutrition in health, urged Wilkie in a letter to cancel the Virta partnership.
Ahhh, the pcrm ... thinly veiled front for peta / animal rights activists. Barnard, Ornish, Greger, McDougall, etc, etc, bla bla bla .. all vegan diet authors. No bias there
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This article was a reprint of the one at US News and World Report...our favorite magazine ranking of Diets that consistently will put keto, Atkins, Duran or any popular flavor of Low Carb at the bottom.

https://www.usnews.com/news/healthi...raise-red-flags


Beside the PCRM folks...also note the NJ Representative who didn’t return calls...maybe because 14 of the 20 largest Pharmaceutical corporations are in his state?
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Interesting, obesity has been a problem for sometime in the military.


This is so true Ms, my father included and the guys I work with besides 1 all have big bellies and are way over weight to obese. I guess when you get out of the military you just do not want to keep up the fitness regiment that kept you fit.

My dad was in 101st airbone army and he was very large when he passed a few years ago. He was truly addicted to sugar and fast food. They VA docs told him but we all knew it was hard to talk to him.
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I told the VA about this years ago when I was an inpatient. They didn't believe my broken bone would heal in 4 weeks instead of 12 -- until they saw the X-Ray and couldn't see the break line.
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That's interesting, Mike, as we dont think of tbe other processes of the body benefitting from a lc diet. Just the usual weight or blood sugars or bp.
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I told the VA about this years ago when I was an inpatient. They didn't believe my broken bone would heal in 4 weeks instead of 12 -- until they saw the X-Ray and couldn't see the break line.


How much of what we "know" is based on humans eating SAD their whole lives?

And so, how much of that is wrong?
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How much of what we "know" is based on humans eating SAD their whole lives?

And so, how much of that is wrong?

WereBear's comment is a great observation. It's not just the military, it's police departments, elementary schools, professionals, blue collar workers, colleges/ university staff and students, this consumption of unhealthy carbs impacts all of society in most countries in the world resulting in ever-increasing record highs of T2D cases. Treating T2D by low carb, a highly recommended approach particularly for people frequenting this forum, has an uphill battle with the vega-vegetarian groups, the pharma business, agriculture (USDA in the states), medical professionals, lipid "experts," and so many others who've been brainwashed to think it's just nuts to eat very low carb (Virta gets its patients into ketosis to reverse T2D), healthy fats (yes, saturated, what a world, what a world!!!), and individually healthy amounts of animal protein. This affliction of obesity and diabetes cuts across all parts of world cultures and world organizations. Look at the statistics from India, China, the UK, and other countries who haven't in the past had these issues. It's pervasive and no one eating something similar to SAD is safe to live a long, active, healthy life. The processed what is portrayed as "healthy" foods are readily adopted and are major contributors to all this; however, the groups that oppose treatments like that of Virta's truly believe that their way is better. Can plant-based work? It's better than the most popular alternative.

I don't see this dynamic changing in the near term until individuals start learning and experimenting on their own, and a company like Virta is able to show positive results with groups like the military, whose members can start sharing with families, friends, and like some of us, convince their own physicians that the power of eating healthy is extremely beneficial, and that "healthy" eating must be defined, not simply prescribed. I wonder about the next time I'm face-to-face with someone who simply states for people to "eat healthy" whether that person could actually define what healthy means . . . . Healthy eating is certainly not how these people have been trained ("brainwashed") . . . . . .
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