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Old Wed, Feb-03-21, 07:45
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Is keto tipping to the mainstream? ‘I cannot remember an underground buzz like the one ketogenic is sowing’


Keto has long been tipped as the next big diet trend. But, while it has found favour in the US, consumers this side of the pond have been slower on the uptake. Could 2021 be a breakthrough year for ketogenic food in Europe?
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Old Wed, Feb-03-21, 08:11
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"Keto" is the big word, but I've found that most people don't really know what it means. For some, it means "all fat all the time doesn't-matter how much you eat, but the more fat the better."
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I've found the same thing, keto to celebrities and to the health conscious who take time to comb through the utter BS that masquerades as nutritional information, is one thing, but to most it isn't well understood. It's even not understood well by those well-known nutrition advocates who tout Bulletproof coffee, eating sticks of butter, fat bombs and the like. I'm inclined to place keto into the category of dietary terms like The Mediterranean Diet and Plant-based Diet. Based on the names being so broad, it's easy to say anything is part of these diets and be correct. That doesn't mean they are healthy, and I strongly believe the "Ketogenic Diet" is a candidate for abuse as well. For example, in most cases when keto is described, it's described as a high fat, moderate protein, and low carb. I guess that would be true, but one can be "ketogenic" by starting from a low carb approach and eating moderate fat and high protein. One can still be producing endogenous ketones by eating with a lower fat approach. I believe the high fat had its roots in the keto diet for children with epilepsy and other health issues. It's claimed that emphasizing healthy fats improves satiety, but I get more satiated from higher amounts of protein. Just my 2 cents/ pence on the topic.
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For example, in most cases when keto is described, it's described as a high fat, moderate protein, and low carb.


This is so ill-defined as to be meaningless. In the worst of my low-fat, vegetarian, pass-me-another-rice-cake spell; I ate less than 25 grams of fat a day.

On the Keto that works for me, I'm 125 grams of fat a day!

4 carbs a day instead of 300. 70 grams of protein instead of 30, and I routinely go up to 120.

What's "moderate" anyway
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This is so ill-defined as to be meaningless. In the worst of my low-fat, vegetarian, pass-me-another-rice-cake spell; I ate less than 25 grams of fat a day.

On the Keto that works for me, I'm 125 grams of fat a day!

4 carbs a day instead of 300. 70 grams of protein instead of 30, and I routinely go up to 120.

What's "moderate" anyway

That's an excellent point and one which escapes most people in that the amount of fat one consumes is relative to what one believes is "normal." Given the low fat craze of the past 40 years or so, we've become conditioned to believe that fat is bad and lower is better. Our normal fat threshold is much lower, so any fat above that amount is considered "high" fat. We need a newer normal and current research and clinical experiences backs that.
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Old Thu, Feb-04-21, 09:34
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Edited to change what I said. I was completely confused. Dietdoctor.com, for the sake of consistency within its website, defined the various types of fasting windows. Had nothing to do with defining keto versus low carb. My bad!

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