Tamar Haspel of the Washington Post has yet another article about CICO. She at least has kept her sense of humor over a topic of some public debate..over two decades with Gary Taubes.

I checked Twitter too soon yesterday for the reaction, It is there now :

"Gary Taubes tweets: No, Christopher and Tamar, the real disagreement is whether this is meaningful.

That you expend more calories than you take in when losing weight says nothing about WHY you are losing weight.

Do you seriously not understand this?"

Dr Christopher Gardner, Dr Tro, the usual list who engage are on the thread, while Dr Eenfeldt, Dr Naiman are posting separately about nutrients and satiety.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/food...ut-weight-loss/




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Dr Eenfeldt’s post about Satiety PER CALORIE



This copied from Twitter, today the Hava and Data Driven Fasting Facebook pages have the same post with Infographics. Easy to follow the pictures, adjust the quantities to your own energy needs, or change the high satiety foods to others you like.

"Does satiety matter?" is the question, and the answer is YES.

What about the studies DR Atkins wrote of in DANDR. Two studies, if Im remembering correctly.

Addressing fat loss and muscle loss based on the composition of the foods consumed. As I recall, the higher protein and fat "ration" conserved muscle, and showed most fat loss. The ration with the highest carbs resulted in least body weight lost and the most loss from muscle mass(as a percent of lost body weight). There was a third ration, between the two, with results between the two.

Bottom line. Most fat loss and least muscle loss using a diet of high meats and fats and very low carbs.

Would LOVE to see a study using all meat and fat. A therapeutic diet, not necessarily a permanent diet.

Based on those studies, the carbs, fat and protein, matters. The source of calories matters .

Yes it is about calories, but calories are downstream of food selection.
WHAT YOU EAT DETERMINES HOW MUCH YOU EAT.

The source matters but to lose weight, you still have to eat fewer calories than you burn to lose weight over time. As Dr Westman would say "That's Just Science, Like Gravity". At minute 5, he explains with new studies that Dr Atkins, Gary Taubes and many others have been wrong on the Extent of a Low Carb Metabolic Advantage. Yes, there is one but it is Very Small.
This in one of his many videos on why Calories Count: https://youtu.be/y6bqm2tYdD0?si=zzWNLarZhR0dueOb

From Tamar Haspel's article:





There are posts for "carnivore" eating, high fat meat, processed meats, bacon, sausage, cream, cheese, pork rinds, keto desserts, even at zero carbs, but no weight loss. This should not be a surprise. If instead that protein macro was the same, but with lower fat and higher fiberous carbs, it would be lower calorie yet also be more satiating.

Dr Naiman has a meme; everyone eats about four pounds of food a day, he shows 1 pound each NF greek yogurt, salmon, 9 eggs and plain baked potato, totaling 1600 calories. Photos from a "keto fest" dinner showed pork belly, grilled cheese sandwiches and ice cream. In calories per pound, pork belly 2300, almond flour 2600, cheese 1800, cream 1540, totaling 8240 calories.

Big Fat Keto Lie #9 is Calories Don't Count: https://optimisingnutrition.com/big-fat-keto-lies/

This Everyday Wellness podcast with Vanessa Spina on common misconceptions of the ketogenic diets was the #1 episode in the Nutrition category last week in the US. Great explanation of calories, micronutrients, protein, bone health and so much more. Some interviews just click, this was one. I skipped red light therapy and coldplunges, Biohacking is not my interest, but the nutrition aspect of this episode was great.

Since Vanessa Spina dropped the fading Ketogenic Girl trend, and became Ms. Optimal Protein, her own podcast is much improved, also excellent..3 interviews with Dr Don Layman, Dr Ted Naiman, Dr Stu Phillips, etc.

https://cynthiathurlow.com/ep-291-o...-vanessa-spina/