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Old Sat, Jul-24-21, 09:35
Iceberg Iceberg is offline
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Plan: DDF, P:E
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I'm excited my weight continues to drop, but my measurements and % of BF are not...

Week 1 is done in this challenge and I've dropped 4 pounds. The most in a week I've ever lost on DDF. I use a Renpho tape and it showed a bit of an increase from last week and I use one of those fancy scales which gives % of BF. That too is up a bit. So my body is giving me mixed messages this week...lol.

Off to make a cup of herbal tea.......d
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  #287   ^
Old Sat, Jul-24-21, 11:06
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Plan: Very LC, Higher Protein
Stats: 227/186/185 Male 6' 0"
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Just watched the following video (some of you have likely seen this since it's been available since January) with Marty discussing nutrition with Dr. Pran Yoganathan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRVBtL-70ww

Dr. Pran provides some very interesting views, but I keep coming back to the elegance of the protein-leverage hypothesis after hearing Pran's observations along with those of Naiman and Bikman. While I've never heard Bikman use the "protein-leverage" term, he validates the thinking in many of his videos as well. Understanding this dietary principle makes it easy to understand how to construct a WOE that includes enough protein to prevent overeating, induce satiety, and rediscover the "fullness" signal. We all have different thresholds, and the objective is to discover our sweet spots for protein consumption. It serves to take this approach out of the realm of simply reducing carbs for better health. It's far more than that and opens the door to consuming important micronutrients to achieve an optimal WOE and good health. Good stuff.
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Old Sun, Jul-25-21, 04:34
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Plan: P:E/DDF
Stats: 225/154/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/28%/25%
Progress: 127%
Location: NC
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I'm excited my weight continues to drop, but my measurements and % of BF are not...

Week 1 is done in this challenge and I've dropped 4 pounds. The most in a week I've ever lost on DDF. I use a Renpho tape and it showed a bit of an increase from last week and I use one of those fancy scales which gives % of BF. That too is up a bit. So my body is giving me mixed messages this week...lol.

Off to make a cup of herbal tea.......d


Iceberg, celebrate a 4 pound loss and ignore the tape!
At age 70 after a 70 pound weight loss, I don’t think my waist measurement will ever go down. I hit another new low in weight and seriously examined that roll around my waist…but photos show nada change. Also with the Renpho scale it appears small changes in body fat reflect changes in water. For the last few days, my water % increased (Southern summer days getting more humid?, drinking more water due heat? No idea) so body fat did go down with weight. Benefit of that scale is there is always at least one SV to claim…mine is still that subcutaneous fat number turned "green". It took so long for that to happen if the weight number goes up, it’s OK

Rob, Dr Pran's gut health views are interesting…and fun. I loved hearing a Sri Lankan with an Australian/NZ accent. And he studied at the Univ of Otago, where Grav took us on a tour and we had lunch! Marty has introduced me to new podcasts, new doctors, new ways of balancing nutrition with health goals. So many nutritional gems in that interview about micronutrients but overarching all…the P:E ratio.

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Old Sun, Jul-25-21, 08:48
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Plan: Very LC, Higher Protein
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So many nutritional gems in that interview about micronutrients but overarching all…the P:E ratio.

So true. While there are small nutritional position details that are viewed differently, the P:E principle is common among all.
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Old Mon, Jul-26-21, 11:25
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Plan: DDF, P:E
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My new trigger is now 89...I don't think I can make that in the morning...when my FBG seems to be higher. Have thought of doing my main meal as my first, then eat to my trigger for the second. With my smoothie, most of the time my BG drops alot before my second meal. I don't want to obsess with the BG and enjoy this new way of living. I'm 67 and fat since menopause. I'm feeling better then before January of this year, so maybe I should celebrate that.

Anyone here chasing the trigger with every meal? or do you do a main meal (no testing) and eat again only after reaching the trigger?

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Old Mon, Jul-26-21, 12:34
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Plan: P:E/DDF
Stats: 225/154/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/28%/25%
Progress: 127%
Location: NC
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I do my main meal around 6 PM and do not test before it. I only test for a discretionary meal, usually near noon. I know how you feel! whenever my trigger drops below 90 panicked I will not be able to reach it. The first time that happened I didn’t but it has been getting easier. Monday I do 7:15 aerobics class and mine was 88 around 1030. It is now easier but it has taken months. I think for those of us with very stable blood sugar from eating low-carb long-term it just takes a long time. Quite a few members do choose to make the first meal the Main Meal.

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5.16 What if I’m above my trigger but REALLY hungry?

If you are above Your Personalised Trigger, it’s ideal to wait. You know your body has enough fuel onboard. But if you are REALLY hungry and just above Your Personalised Trigger, it’s OK to eat. Still, you should prioritise nutrients (i.e. leaner meats and seafood with non-starchy vegetables), given you know you already have plenty of fuel onboard.
Eating a high protein meal when you are hungry in the morning (rather than waiting so long that you are ravenous) is a great strategy if you experience some degree of dawn phenomenon. It’s hard to go wrong if you limit fuel when you’re above your trigger and only refuel (with fat and carbs) when you’re below your trigger.
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Old Fri, Jul-30-21, 06:30
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Plan: DDF, P:E
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Yesterday I hit my trigger for the first meal. Not so on the second. I had mowed the lawn, drank tons of water, etc...so at 5:45 pm, I ate 4 pts above my trigger. I've been getting severe migraines again and yesterday was pretty bad. I felt like if I didn't eat something, I'd be sick. So, in my mind I'm thinking the chronic migraine kept my BG high and has been messing with it for a week or more as are my allergies.

I have been logging meals ahead and seeing how they look on the P:E calculator. I think that is helping. So right now, one meal is trigger or below and the other just above trigger. I'm still at 88.
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Old Sat, Jul-31-21, 03:06
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Plan: P:E/DDF
Stats: 225/154/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/28%/25%
Progress: 127%
Location: NC
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With a migraine, you could use the "temporary trigger" adjustment for pain, which will add 10 mg for 24 hours. If my BG is 1-2 points above trigger, I go with that. Too often I have waited another hour, only to have it go higher from being hungry.

Next week will be one year! since starting DDF + PE. Hit another low weight this morning, so happy about that The crazy thing is my BG is still in a very narrow range. Waking BG was 101 yesterday (I’m not even checking that regularly) and my trigger is 91. Unless it bumps up a bit from exercise, that's my range for the day. Boring
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Old Sat, Jul-31-21, 18:31
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Plan: DDF, P:E
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With a migraine, you could use the "temporary trigger" adjustment for pain, which will add 10 mg for 24 hours. If my BG is 1-2 points above trigger, I go with that.


My migraines are chronic. I think since allergy season they've come back with a vengance.

I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. Plug along the best I can.
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