Wed, Dec-04-19, 12:30
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Plan: mostly milkfat
Stats: 190/152.4/154
BF:
Progress: 104%
Location: Ontario
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037593/
Did Berry include this in the notes?
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After adjustment for age, other demographics, lifestyle factors, and intakes of other foods or beverages, only processed meat intake was associated with telomere length. For every 1 serving/d greater intake of processed meat, the T/S ratio was 0.07 smaller (β ± SE: −0.07 ± 0.03, P = 0.006). Categorical analysis showed that participants consuming ≥1 serving of processed meat each week had 0.017 smaller T/S ratios than did nonconsumers. Other foods or beverages and the 2 dietary patterns were not associated with telomere length.
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Not something that keeps me up at night. But--somehow, when looking at whole grain versus processed, the emphasis is on good things that have been taken out. Looking at unprocessed versus processed meats--there's sort of a lack of appreciation for the healthfulness of the beginning product, of nutrition that might be lost in the processing--it's all about the stuff added in, or that's the impression I get. I don't think it's established that processed meat is all that bad--but if it was, is it the meat itself, or what it displaces in the diet? I think there is evidence that processed meat can increase in the diet, when all meat is being increased, say somebody is going on Atkins or something, while health is improving. Yes the evidence for this is in part anecdotal, but when we have anecdotal versus weakish epidemiology, meh.
One more thing--the study I posted
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Dietary patterns, food groups, and telomere length in the Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis (MESA)
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The study I posted gives ham hocks as the most "damaging" processed meat. My Ukrainian grandmother valued ham hocks, they were sort of a traditional food for my family. Any other ethnic groups besides Ukrainian that like ham hocks? They did correct for this sort of thing, but you can't really correct for something unless you already know its contribution with some certainty.
I do treat processed meat more as a treat than as a staple, I have portion issues, it's not as satiating for me as fresh meat.
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