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Old Fri, Jun-28-19, 21:16
Alene1 Alene1 is online now
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Plan: CALP
Stats: 170/169/145 Female 65 inches
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Default For those that tried CAD/CALP and didn't continue, why?

I'm experimenting with CAD/CALP and see that there is very little posting going on in that forum. If you've tried it and decided it wasn't for you, why was that? It seems like it could be the perfect plan with the best of all worlds.
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Old Fri, Jun-28-19, 21:30
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Plan: 30 g carbs/day
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I just had massive carb creep. That was just me.

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Old Sat, Jun-29-19, 03:23
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Plan: Primal
Stats: 171/155/155 Female 5'7"
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Because this addict has to practice abstinence. If your metabolism and brain chemistry isn't nearly that screwed up, it's a sensible approach. It's just infinitely easier for me to have zero of something than try to do the small-serving-as-long-as-its-in-one-hour thing. That would leave me climbing the walls for more.

I DO have small servings of off-plan foods here and there, but only under tightly-controlled circumstances like restaurants, and there is no temping/appealing off-plan food in my house, ever.
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Old Sat, Jun-29-19, 04:36
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Plan: IF Fung/LC Westman/Primal
Stats: 222/171/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/25.3%/24%
Progress: 96%
Location: NC
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Two words...Reward Meals.

Too easy For me to go off the rails. Like Kristine, Dr Westman's strict clinic plan is easier than being allowed "rewards" or climbing the ladder in traditional Atkins.


Here's a good thread on the topic of Abstainers vs Moderators:
https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=468195
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Old Tue, Jul-02-19, 06:42
Alene1 Alene1 is online now
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Plan: CALP
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Thanks for the link, Janet! Looks like an interesting read.
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Old Tue, Jul-02-19, 08:52
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Plan: HF/vLC/GF,CF,SF
Stats: 197/136/150 Female 66 inches
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Progress: 130%
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Even properly designed Reward Meals had too many carbs for me and triggered my cravings and constant thinking about food. Reward Meals are like giving an alcoholic 1 oz of booze once a day. It took me 24/7 vigilance to stay on CAD (just like every low-cal and high-carb diet I've ever tried), whereas following Atkins Induction, Keto or Westman's plan eliminates cravings and constantly thinking about food and involves no effort on my part other than keeping off-plan foods out of my house.

The one thing I have retained from CAD is that if I do stray for a special occasion, if I keep it to <60 minutes and get back on plan at near-zero carb levels for 3 days, the excursion has no long lasting effects. But I cannot do it daily or weekly. For me occasions are only "special" enough ~5 times a year. The 3-days of white-knuckle vigilance required to get my cravings & constant food thoughts to disappear remind me what a bad idea Reward Meals are.

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Old Tue, Jul-02-19, 09:02
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Plan: Keto+IF
Stats: 170/138/140 Female 62 inches
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Progress: 107%
Location: Nevada Desert, USA
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I am an Abstainer, an all-or-nothing kinda gal. Rewards? Ladder?

Addict.
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Old Tue, Jul-02-19, 10:23
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Plan: atkins
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I liked the Rewards Meal too much. The first time I made a special dessert for RM. First day ....good. Second day...carb craving hit gobbling up three dessrts.

After more DANDR attempted CAD again. Learned ONE RM worked but next few days had to be low carb.

Later, trying OMAD, the same response. Treats could only be occassional. Carb cravings told me when I had consummed too much, or too often.

Trying to prevent triggering cravings means avoiding sweets, sugar and limiting AS, and real fruits,too.

CAD was too hard as it triggered binging.
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Old Tue, Jul-02-19, 10:51
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Very interesting conversation here. Iíve read about this WOE but didnít think would be a good fit for me, and after reading these post, I know I was right. Iíd be off the rails after one reward meal...
I would say it seems like it would work for someone without addictive eating issues, but not for a carb lover like me!
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Old Tue, Jul-02-19, 11:15
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Plan: Atkins DANDR
Stats: 210/188/160 Female 5'4"
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I even bought the book and realized that's not for me. There is no way I could keep high carb/surgery deserts in the house and not want to eat it.
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Old Tue, Jul-02-19, 19:55
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Plan: atkins
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I too have the book. It was well worth reading. I too keep to the one hkur eating window. Must pick greens for my salad before starting meal.Otherwise meal gets split into two parts . Always consious of the one hour window, even if after the fact. Also, must have 2 hours between eating sessions. Definitely a good read.....lots of tidbits.
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Old Wed, Jul-03-19, 11:54
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Plan: Atkins DANDR
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Originally Posted by Ms Arielle
I too have the book. It was well worth reading. I too keep to the one hkur eating window. Must pick greens for my salad before starting meal.Otherwise meal gets split into two parts . Always consious of the one hour window, even if after the fact. Also, must have 2 hours between eating sessions. Definitely a good read.....lots of tidbits.


If it's all true, that these eating windows do any good......
From what some have said, the Mrs. gained lots of weight later.
To me, the problem is the dessert at the reward meals. Every Day? What about people with Diabetes or Pre-Diabetes, it still spikes the BS and releases all of that insulin. Insulin, I think is at the center of weight storage, so IDK.
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Old Fri, Jul-05-19, 10:38
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Plan: LCHF
Stats: 205/165/150 Female 5'6"
BF:35
Progress: 73%
Location: Jersey Girl
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Basically as I got older I stopped losing on it. I also wanted to eat healthier and not have sugar anymore or grains. I use CAD for damage control if I would be at an event and there is nothing there low carb for me to eat. I follow low carb/keto now and its so much better for me.
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Old Thu, Jul-11-19, 11:01
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Plan: Paleo 99.5%
Stats: 210/170/160 Female 67.5"
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Location: San Diego, CA
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It just woke cravings in me and didn't help me lose weight at all.
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