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Have you had your 25(OH)D levels measured to see how your D3 intake affects the level?
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My Dr. won't order it. The curse of taking a boatload of supplements and being beyond textbook healthy but obese, lol!!! I've been looking online for a direct order lab that does it. Finally found one. It's called lab-safe.com and costs $148. I will talk to my dr one more time and if refused again will order it.

Meanwhile I'm not worried about the amount I'm taking. At 7,000 IU/day, I'm well within safe tolerances. There are quite a few women I know, relatives, friends, coworkers who are on 50,000 IU/wk, prescribed from their doctors. I'm African American, 50, live above Newport News, SC, have a long history of severe SAD, a family history of high blood pressure and heart disease, and I had undetermined muscle pain. Plus I'm obese which has been shown to require twice the dose of D because of impaired absorbtion. So based on research I've done, I think I'm in the ball park for now. After a month or so I plan to cut down a tad to 4-5 until deep winter when I'll go back up.

When I do finally have the test I will look at it as a measure to help keep my levels at the optimum level. So far I'm looking to have my levels tested every winter, probably every Dec-Jan. If the test were less expensive, I'd probably test seasonally to to determine nessessary vitamin D supplementation by season.

I thought this was an interesting case/result of D toxicity.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.o...full/116/3/e453

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http://www.cholecalciferol-council.com/prostate.shtml

Vitamin D and Prostate Cancer


Prostate cancer kills 31,000 American men every year, the second leading cause of cancer deaths among men. This year, more than 220,000 American men will be diagnosed with the disease, making prostate cancer the leading cancer among men. Early diagnosis is important as surgery can be curative. After the cancer has spread, especially to bone, treatment options are more limited. Castration, usually chemical, will delay the cancer from spreading for several years, but then the treatment options are quite limited.

No matter what cancer you have, or are trying to prevent, the real question is should cancer patients be left vitamin D deficient? Many experts will tell you that vitamin D should not be taken for prostate cancer until well controlled scientific studies prove it helps. The problem with that approach is two-fold. First, you may die waiting for the studies to be conducted and two, it misses the point. The point is this: men with prostate cancer should not allow themselves to be vitamin D deficient and neither should their doctors.

If you have prostate cancer, please remember that vitamin D is not a cure-all and should never be used as the main treatment for your cancer. Your oncologist will prescribe treatment that has proven efficacy and you should carefully follow his/her advice as the mainstay of treatment. At the same time, you should know that evidence suggests that the proper amount of vitamin D may help you in your fight against prostate cancer.

Next, let's look at selected studies from the scientific literature to see what clues exist about the role vitamin D may play in preventing, and treating, prostate cancer.

In 1990, Schwartz proposed that Vitamin D deficiency may underlie the major risks for prostate cancer, including age, Black race, and northern latitudes. He pointed out that all these factors are associated with decreased synthesis of Vitamin D. Mortality rates from prostate cancer in the U.S. are inversely correlated with ultraviolet radiation, the principal source of Vitamin D.
Anticancer Res. 1990 Sep-Oct;10(5A):1307-11.

In 1992, Hanchette and Schwartz again proposed that sunlight and vitamin D may play a role in prostate cancer. They pointed out that men in the United States were ten times more likely to develop prostate cancer than men in Japan, where men consume higher amounts of vitamin D due to their consumption of fatty fish. Although the authors did not mention it, Japanese men also consume soy, which inhibits the breakdown of calcitriol (activated vitamin D) in the tissues. Furthermore, traditional Japanese men consume higher quantities of omega-3 fatty acids their American counterparts and such fats are now known to dissociate vitamin D metabolites from their binding protein, thus raising the free, or active, levels of those metabolites in the blood.

To support their hypothesis, Hanchette and Schwartz analyzed American prostate cancer deaths in relation to sunlight and discovered a .0001 negative correlation, a very significant association. That is, they found that men who received more sunlight were less likely to die from prostate cancer.
Cancer. 1992 Dec 15;70(12):2861-9.

In the same year, Schwartz discovered that death rates from prostate cancer were correlated with death rates from multiple sclerosis, another disease know to be associated with lack of sunlight. Again, he proposed that lack of vitamin D may a causative factor in both diseases.
Neuroepidemiology. 1992;11(4-6):244-54.

In 1993, Skowronski and colleagues discovered that all three of the prostate cancer cell lines they studied possessed a vitamin D receptor and the active form of vitamin D, calcitriol, "dramatically inhibited" the growth of two of the three cell lines.
Endocrinology. 1993 May;132(5):1952-60.

Over the next several years, four studies appeared to disprove the vitamin D hypothesis. In each case, various metabolites of vitamin D were drawn on large numbers of men who were then followed over many years to see which men developed prostate cancer. Although some of the studies found that activated vitamin D (calcitriol) levels in the blood protected against colon cancer, none of the studies showed that low calcidiol levels (25 hydroxy-vitamin D) were associated with risk of developing prostate cancer. Schwartz's hypothesis appeared to be disproved.
Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 1993 Sep-Oct;2(5):467-72.
Cancer Causes Control. 1995 May;6(3):235-9.
Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 1996 Feb;5(2):121-6.
Cancer Causes Control. 1998 Aug;9(4):425-32.

However, in 1995 Miller and colleagues expanded their earlier work and examined seven prostate cancer cell lines. They found all seven lines had receptors for vitamin D. They also showed that activated vitamin D (calcitriol) inhibited the growth of four of seven prostatic carcinoma cell lines and found that the more vitamin D receptors, the greater the inhibition. Furthermore, they found that the enzyme that breaks down calcitriol in the tissues (24-hydoxylase) reduced that inhibition. That is, the more 24-hydroxylase, the less the cancer cells were inhibited by activated vitamin D. Not only did this mean that activated vitamin D may retard prostate cancer growth, it suggested that substances which interfere with 24 hydroxylase may also prove useful in treating prostate cancer.
Clin Cancer Res. 1995 Sep;1(9):997-1003.

Later in 1995, Feldman and colleagues at Stanford University confirmed Miller's findings and stated, "Based on these findings, we postulate that vitamin D may have protective actions on the development and/or progression of prostate cancer. . . We further hypothesize that vitamin D supplementation may have beneficial effects on retarding the development and/or progression of prostate cancer." For the first time, cancer researchers at a major university seemed to be saying that evidence existed that cholecalciferol (plain vitamin D) may be useful in preventing and treating prostate cancer.
Adv Exp Med Biol. 1995;375:53-63.

In 1998, Gross and colleagues at Stanford conducted the first clinical trial of a vitamin D metabolite in treating advanced prostate cancer. However, instead of raising the tissue levels of activated vitamin D (calcitriol) by supplementing with oral vitamin D (cholecalciferol), they chose to give calcitriol itself. In spite of circumventing the natural system to raise prostate calcitriol levels, they found calcitriol decreased the rate of progression of PSA blood levels (a test of prostate cancer's progression) in 6 of the 7 patients. Elevations in blood calcium levels (hypercalcemia) seriously limited the use of calcitriol and the cancer eventually progressed. (No one knows what would have happened to those seven men if they had been given equipotent doses of vitamin D (cholecalciferol). Cholecalciferol has to be given in massive doses (40,000 units) over an extended period of time (months) to cause significant hypercalcemia. In addition, the tissue production of calcitriol is not rate limited, suggesting that oral cholecalciferol is effective in raising tissue levels of calcitriol).
J Urol. 1998 Jun;159(6):2035-9

In 1998, Schwartz, the same scientist who had first postulated that vitamin D deficiency played a role in prostate cancer, confirmed that prostate cells, including most prostate cancer cell lines, were able to activate vitamin D. Schwartz and his colleagues concluded that "these data suggest a potential role for 25-OH-D (calcidiol) in the chemoprevention of invasive prostate cancer." As the easiest way to raise calcidiol is through oral supplementation with vitamin D, this meant scientists at another major American medical school were suggesting that plain, cheap, non-prescription vitamin D may help prostate cancer.
Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 1998 May;7(5):391-5.

In the year 2000, Ahonen and colleagues conducted a careful study of calcidiol levels in young men and followed them for the development of prostate cancer. Unlike earlier studies, he found a relationship between low vitamin D blood levels and prostate cancer. Ahonen found young men with calcidiol levels below 40 nm/L (16 ng/ml) were three times more likely to develop prostate cancer than were men with higher levels.

Just as important, he found these men were six times more likely to develop invasive cancers. This finding implied a treatment effect for vitamin D as the prevention of invasiveness is a key goal of treatment.
Cancer Causes Control. 2000 Oct;11(9):847-52.

Later in 2000, Barreto and colleagues at Wake Forest University School of Medicine were the first see if calcidiol inhibited prostate cell growth. They found that calcidiol was just as effective as calcitriol in inhibiting growth. The concluded that their findings "support the use of 25 (OH)D (calcidiol) as a chemotherapeutic agent in the treatment of prostate cancer." As oral cholecalciferol is the best way to raise calcidiol levels, it became clear that another group of cancer researchers at a major university medical center was calling for the use of vitamin D in prostate cancer.
Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 2000 Mar;9(3):265-70.

Chen and colleagues at Boston University School of Medicine then demonstrated that calcidiol was just as effective as calcitriol in inhibiting growth of prostate cancer cell lines in the test tube. They also found that a vitamin D analogue already on the market, one known to cause less hypercalcemia that other analogues, was also effective in inhibiting cancer growth. (Vitamin D analogues are patentable modification of calcitriol.) However, their findings about calcidiol again emphasized that readily available vitamin D should help fight prostate cancer. In fact, the authors concluded calcidiol might be a good candidate for "human trials in prostate cancer." Now four different groups of scientist, from four major university medical centers, were calling for the use of vitamin D in prostate cancer.
Clin Cancer Res. 2000 Mar;6(3):901-8.

In 2001, Luscombe and colleagues at the School of Medicine in North Straffordshire Hospital in England published three studies linking ultraviolet exposure and skin type to the development of prostate cancer. They found that cumulative outdoor exposure, outdoor occupations and skin type was associated with reduced risk of advanced stage tumors. They also found that childhood sunburns dramatically reduced the risk of developing prostate cancer, probably because those with fair skin are more likely to burn but also find it easier to make vitamin D in their skin. Furthermore, the found that people who have difficulty making a skin pigment called melanin (a natural sun screen) are much less likely to develop prostate cancer.
Br J Cancer. 2001 Nov 16;85(10):1504-9.
Carcinogenesis. 2001 Sep;22(9):1343-7.
Lancet. 2001 Aug 25;358(9282):641-2.

In addition, in 2001, Zhao and Feldman at Stanford University studied the one prostate cancer cell line (DU 145) that does not respond to calcitriol. They found this cell line, which is poorly differentiated and derived from brain metastasis, can be made to respond to calcitriol by adding drugs which inhibit the breakdown of calcitriol. This raised the possibility that prostate cancers which did not respond to vitamin D could be made responsive by the addition of a metabolic inhibitor. Farhan and colleagues at the University of Vienna Medical School soon showed that the isoflavonoid, genistein, (which is found in soybeans) is a powerful metabolic inhibitor of the enzyme that breaks down calcitriol.
Steroids. 2001 Mar-May;66(3-5):293-300.
J Chromatogr B Analyt Technol Biomed Life Sci. 2002 Sep 25;777(1-2):261-8.

In 2003, Chen and Holick at Boston University School of Medicine reiterated their call for the use of vitamin D in prostate cancer. After reviewing most of the research on the subject, the authors concluded, "adequate exposure to sunlight or oral supplementation might provide a simple way to increase synthesis of calcitriol in the prostate and, therefore, decrease the risk of prostate cancer." They added, "adequate vitamin D nutrition should be maintained, not only for bone health in men and women, but because it might decrease the risk of prostate cancer and mitigate metastatic disease should it develop."
Trends Endocrinol Metab. 2003 Nov;14(9):423-30.

In 2003, Bodiwala and colleagues in England studied sun exposure and skin type and again found that men who sunbathed or otherwise exposed themselves to sunlight were less likely to develop prostate cancer. They also identified men with various combinations of skin type and reduced sun exposure, which were up to 13 times more likely to develop prostate cancer.
Cancer Lett. 2003 Oct 28;200(2):141-8.
Carcinogenesis. 2003 Apr;24(4):711-7.
Cancer Lett. 2003 Mar 31;192(2):145-9.

Also in 2003, Beer and colleagues at the Oregon Health and Science University again tested calcitriol as a treatment for prostate cancer. They found a significant reduction in the rate of increase in PSA, a marker of the cancer's growth although no patient achieved the hoped for 50% reduction. Unfortunately, none of the patients received oral vitamin D supplementation, which would more effectively raise prostate calcitriol levels. In fact, none of the patients were even tested or treated for vitamin D deficiency.
Cancer. 2003 Mar 1;97(5):1217-24.

In 2003, two studies from at the University of Vienna Medical School confirmed that the isoflavonoids in soy dramatically reduce the breakdown of calcitriol in prostate cancer cells. In fact, they found that such products profoundly inhibit the enzyme that metabolizes calcitriol, reducing its activity to almost zero. This again raised the possibility that such compounds could be combined with vitamin D to treat prostate cancer.
Recent Results Cancer Res. 2003;164:413-25.
J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2003 Mar;84(4):423-9.
J Nutr. 2004 May;134(5):1207S-1212S.

Three studies in 2004 examined the association between vitamin D levels and prostate cancer. Two of the studies found no association between vitamin D levels and the subsequent risk of developing prostate cancer. A third study, from Finland, actually raised the possibility that both low and high vitamin D levels are associated with prostate cancer.

Careful analysis of the Finnish paper revealed 57 of the 67 men with high vitamin D blood levels who subsequently developed prostate cancer were from Norway. In Norway, increased consumption of vitamin A (associated with increased risk of prostate cancer) through cod liver oil is common.

In addition, in a letter to the editor, Reinhold Vieth proposed that that the Finnish finding was best explained by annual variations in calcidiol levels causing low tissue calcitriol levels. In their response to Vieth, the authors accepted his explanation as the probable cause for their findings and also proposed that tissue calcidiol levels, not just tissue calcitriol levels, may be protective.
J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2004 May;89-90(1-5):533-7.
Cancer Causes Control. 2004 Apr;15(3):255-65.
Int J Cancer. 2004 Jan 1;108(1):104-8.

Then, researchers in Norway showed that patients diagnosed with prostate cancer in the summer and fall, when vitamin D levels are the highest, have a significantly better prognosis than patients diagnosed in the winter or spring. The authors concluded that their "study supports the hypothesis that vitamin D may influence cancer specific mortality in a beneficial way. A possible mechanism to explain our results might be a combined action of vitamin D and cancer treatment that amplifies the treatment effect. In confirmed, in addition to traditional cancer treatment, vitamin D would be of particular importance in the primary prevention of deaths from cancer."
Cancer Causes Control. 2004 Mar;15(2):149-58.

Lu and his group from Finland then demonstrated for the first time that calcidiol [25(OH)D] is an active steroid hormone in prostate cells. Up until this time, most scientists believed calcidiol was only a prehormone and had to be metabolized into calcitriol before it could regulate genes. Although much less potent than calcitriol, calcidiol is present in much higher concentrations. It now appeared calcidiol is a steroid hormone as well and active in suppressing cell proliferation in prostate tissue.
FASEB J. 2004 Feb;18(2):332-4. Epub 2003 Dec 04.

Young and his group at Boston University School of Medicine then confirmed that tissue calcitriol concentrations are virtually uncontrolled. That is, the usual mechanisms that regulate blood calcitriol concentrations, calcium and parathormone, do not regulate tissue calcitriol levels in prostate cells. In fact, calcitriol did not exhibit negative feedback, and reduce its own production, until pharmacological amounts of calcitriol were introduced. The authors also pointed out that soy would further increase tissue levels and concluded their finding should "encourage the further development of nutritionally-based models for prostate cancer chemoprevention using vitamin D."
Carcinogenesis. 2004 Jun;25(6):967-71. Epub 2004 Jan 16.

In late 2004, Woo, Vieth and colleagues from the University of Toronto presented a groundbreaking paper at the November NIH conference on vitamin D and cancer. They showed that 2,000 units of simple vitamin D (cholecalciferol) either reduced or prevented further increases in PSA in the majority of men with advancing prostate cancer. For the first time, a human interventional trial indicted that simple vitamin D was effective in fighting cancer.

What does this mean? It may mean a lot if you have prostate cancer. Of course, many questions are unanswered. However, many questions are always unanswered, that is the nature of science. It certainly looks as if vitamin D supplementation may help reduce the rate of the growth of prostate cancer.

Only one human study shows that vitamin D helps prostate cancer, but, tragically, no other studies have been done to address that simple question. Hundreds of thousands of people around the world will die this year from prostate cancer and many will be vitamin D deficient.

If asked, most scientists will tell you that vitamin D should not be given to prostate cancer patients until vitamin D is proved to be both safe and effective. However, that is not the question. The question is, should prostate cancer patients be allowed to die from their cancer while not being treated for their vitamin D deficiency. We don't think so, and neither would most victims.

The questions is, what can you do now, based on what is known now. Say you cannot wait for science? The Vitamin D Council will not tell you what to do. We are a non-profit educational organization but we are not your doctors. We will not make any recommendations. In the future, we plan to publish an e-book that will tell you what we would do if we developed prostate cancer.
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traditional Japanese men consume higher quantities of omega-3 fatty acids their American counterparts and such fats are now known to dissociate vitamin D metabolites from their binding protein, thus raising the free, or active, levels of those metabolites in the blood.
You learn something new every day. Now I have another reason to increase my intake of omega-3 fats.
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Interesting the things you learn, huh?

I think vitamin D is a miracle!!!

I must admit it's become my "hammer", lol!!!

I'm going to post, weekly, an article of interest on vitamin D.

If people don't visibly join the "experiment, it will get a lot of people thinking and dosing. They'll be the "silent majority", lol!!
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Just wanted to post and say that I'm doing this. I was taking 2000 IU but am now aiming for 4000.
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Some Vitamin D studies from The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/82/3/575
Association between serum concentrations of 25-hydroxyvitamin D and gingival inflammation
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Conclusions: Vitamin D may reduce susceptibility to gingival inflammation through its antiinflammatory effects. Gingivitis may be a useful clinical model to evaluate the antiinflammatory effects of vitamin D.


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/82/3/675
Dietary pattern, inflammation, and incidence of type 2 diabetes in women
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Results: Through the use of reduced rank regression, we identified a dietary pattern that was strongly related to inflammatory markers in the nested case-control study. This pattern, which was high in sugar-sweetened soft drinks, refined grains, diet soft drinks, and processed meat but low in wine, coffee, cruciferous vegetables, and yellow vegetables, was associated with an increased risk of diabetes


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/82/3/685
Diabetes mellitus and serum carotenoids: findings of a population-based study in Queensland, Australia
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Conclusions: Serum carotenoids are inversely associated with type 2 diabetes and impaired glucose metabolism.


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abs...ournalcode=ajcn
Decreased bioavailability of vitamin D in obesity
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Conclusions: Obesity-associated vitamin D insufficiency is likely due to the decreased bioavailability of vitamin D3 from cutaneous and dietary sources because of its deposition in body fat compartments.


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/82/3/517
Hypovitaminosis D is associated with reductions in serum apolipoprotein A-I but not with fasting lipids in British Bangladeshis
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Conclusions: In this study of British South Asians, the data showed a positive relation of fasting apo A-I concentrations to serum 25(OH)D concentrations, independent of glycemia and other dietary, anthropometric, and lifestyle risk factors for type 2 diabetes and ischemic heart disease after multiple regression analyses. Subjects with hypovitaminosis D are likely to have an increased risk of ischemic heart disease independent of their increased risk of type 2 diabetes.
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A few more vitamin D articles:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/80/6/1645
Tanning is associated with optimal vitamin D status (serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentration) and higher bone mineral density
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Conclusion: The regular use of a tanning bed that emits vitamin D–producing ultraviolet radiation is associated with higher 25(OH)D concentrations and thus may have a benefit for the skeleton.


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/80/6/1678S
Sunlight and vitamin D for bone health and prevention of autoimmune diseases, cancers, and cardiovascular disease
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Most humans depend on sun exposure to satisfy their requirements for vitamin D. Solar ultraviolet B photons are absorbed by 7-dehydrocholesterol in the skin, leading to its transformation to previtamin D3, which is rapidly converted to vitamin D3. Season, latitude, time of day, skin pigmentation, aging, sunscreen use, and glass all influence the cutaneous production of vitamin D3. Once formed, vitamin D3 is metabolized in the liver to 25-hydroxyvitamin D3 and then in the kidney to its biologically active form, 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3. Vitamin D deficiency is an unrecognized epidemic among both children and adults in the United States. Vitamin D deficiency not only causes rickets among children but also precipitates and exacerbates osteoporosis among adults and causes the painful bone disease osteomalacia. Vitamin D deficiency has been associated with increased risks of deadly cancers, cardiovascular disease, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, and type 1 diabetes mellitus. Maintaining blood concentrations of 25-hydroxyvitamin D above 80 nmol/L (30 ng/mL) not only is important for maximizing intestinal calcium absorption but also may be important for providing the extrarenal 1-hydroxylase that is present in most tissues to produce 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3. Although chronic excessive exposure to sunlight increases the risk of nonmelanoma skin cancer, the avoidance of all direct sun exposure increases the risk of vitamin D deficiency, which can have serious consequences. Monitoring serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentrations yearly should help reveal vitamin D deficiencies. Sensible sun exposure (usually 5–10 min of exposure of the arms and legs or the hands, arms, and face, 2 or 3 times per week) and increased dietary and supplemental vitamin D intakes are reasonable approaches to guarantee vitamin D sufficiency.


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/79/3/362
Vitamin D: importance in the prevention of cancers, type 1 diabetes, heart disease, and osteoporosis
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The purpose of this review is to put into perspective the many health benefits of vitamin D and the role of vitamin D deficiency in increasing the risk of many common and serious diseases, including some common cancers, type 1 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and osteoporosis. Numerous epidemiologic studies suggest that exposure to sunlight, which enhances the production of vitamin D3 in the skin, is important in preventing many chronic diseases. Because very few foods naturally contain vitamin D, sunlight supplies most of our vitamin D requirement. 25-Hydroxyvitamin D [25(OH)D] is the metabolite that should be measured in the blood to determine vitamin D status. Vitamin D deficiency is prevalent in infants who are solely breastfed and who do not receive vitamin D supplementation and in adults of all ages who have increased skin pigmentation or who always wear sun protection or limit their outdoor activities. Vitamin D deficiency is often misdiagnosed as fibromyalgia. A new dietary source of vitamin D is orange juice fortified with vitamin D. Studies in both human and animal models add strength to the hypothesis that the unrecognized epidemic of vitamin D deficiency worldwide is a contributing factor of many chronic debilitating diseases. Greater awareness of the insidious consequences of vitamin D deficiency is needed. Annual measurement of serum 25(OH)D is a reasonable approach to monitoring for vitamin D deficiency. The recommended adequate intakes for vitamin D are inadequate, and, in the absence of exposure to sunlight, a minimum of 1000 IU vitamin D/d is required to maintain a healthy concentration of 25(OH)D in the blood.


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/76/1/187
Hypovitaminosis D prevalence and determinants among African American and white women of reproductive age: third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, 1988–1994
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Results: The prevalence of hypovitaminosis D was 42.4 ± 3.1% ( ± SE) among African Americans and 4.2 ± 0.7% among whites. Among African Americans, hypovitaminosis D was independently associated with consumption of milk or breakfast cereal <3 times/wk, no use of vitamin D supplements, season, urban residence, low body mass index, and no use of oral contraceptives. Even among 243 African Americans who consumed the adequate intake of vitamin D from supplements (200 IU/d), 28.2 ± 2.7% had hypovitaminosis D.


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/76/1/3
Too little vitamin D in premenopausal women: why should we care?
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Therefore, increasing our vitamin D intake or casual exposure to sunlight may decrease the risk of some of the most common cancers, type 1 diabetes, and possibly multiple sclerosis. The only way to know a person's vitamin D status is to measure 25(OH)D. Thus, it is reasonable for everyone to have his or her 25(OH)D concentration measured once a year.


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/61/3/638S
Environmental factors that influence the cutaneous production of vitamin D
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All vertebrates, including humans, obtain most of their daily vitamin D requirement from casual exposure to sunlight. During exposure to sunlight, the solar ultraviolet B photons (290-315 nm) penetrate into the skin where they cause the photolysis of 7-dehydrocholesterol to precholecalciferol. Once formed, precholecalciferol undergoes a thermally induced rearrangement of its double bonds to form cholecalciferol. An increase in skin pigmentation, aging, and the topical application of a sunscreen diminishes the cutaneous production of cholecalciferol. Latitude, season, and time of day as well as ozone pollution in the atmosphere influence the number of solar ultraviolet B photons that reach the earth's surface, and thereby, alter the cutaneous production of cholecalciferol. In Boston, exposure to sunlight during the months of November through February will not produce any significant amounts of cholecalciferol in the skin. Because windowpane glass absorbs ultraviolet B radiation, exposure of sunlight through glass windows will not result in any production of cholecalciferol. It is now recognized that vitamin D insufficiency and vitamin D deficiency are common in elderly people, especially in those who are infirm and not exposed to sunlight or who live at latitudes that do not provide them with sunlight-mediated cholecalciferol during the winter months. Vitamin D insufficiency and deficiency exacerbate osteoporosis, cause osteomalacia, and increase the risk of skeletal fractures. Vitamin D insufficiency and deficiency can be prevented by encouraging responsible exposure to sunlight and/or consumption of a multivitamin tablet that contains 10 micrograms (400 IU) vitamin D.
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http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/do...62.2005.01487.x
European Journal of Clinical Investigation
Volume 35 Issue 5 Page 290 - May 2005
doi:10.1111/j.1365-2362.2005.01487.x

Vitamin D and calcium deficits predispose for multiple chronic diseases
M. Peterlik and H. S. Cross

Abstract
There is evidence from both observational studies and clinical trials that calcium malnutrition and hypovitaminosis D are predisposing conditions for various common chronic diseases. In addition to skeletal disorders, calcium and vitamin D deficits increase the risk of malignancies, particularly of colon, breast and prostate gland, of chronic inflammatory and autoimmune diseases (e.g. insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus, inflammatory bowel disease, multiple sclerosis), as well as of metabolic disorders (metabolic syndrome, hypertension). The aim of the present review was to provide improved understanding of the molecular and cellular processes by which deficits in calcium and vitamin D cause specific changes in cell and organ functions and thereby increase the risk for chronic diseases of different aetiology. 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3 and extracellular Ca++ are both key regulators of proliferation, differentiation and function at the cellular level. However, the efficiency of vitamin D receptor-mediated intracellular signalling is limited by the negative effects of hypovitaminosis D on extrarenal 25-hydroxyvitamin D-1 -hydroxylase activity and thus on the production of 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3. Calcium malnutrition eventually causes a decrease in calcium concentration in extracellular fluid compartments, resulting in organ-specific modulation of calcium-sensing receptor activity. Hence, attenuation of signal transduction from the ligand-activated vitamin D receptor and calcium-sensing receptor seems to be the prime mechanism by which calcium and vitamin D insufficiencies cause perturbation of cellular functions in bone, kidney, intestine, mammary and prostate glands, endocrine pancreas, vascular endothelium, and, importantly, in the immune system. The wide range of diseases associated with deficits in calcium and vitamin D in combination with the high prevalence of these conditions represents a special challenge for preventive medicine.
Eur J Clin Invest 2005; 35 (5): 290 304

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Well, I've decided that vitamin D supplementation is something that I will do this coming season. I feel that I have a 'full' amount of D in my body now as I have been getting one to two hours of sun on my arms and legs most days of the summer. I could use some advice on a recommended level to take. I take a multi that has 400IU and a calcium supplement that gives 133IU (to be taken 3 times a day). Taking both the multi and the calcium supplements will give me 800IU of vitamin D per day. How much should I add to that?
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Read the links under dosage at the start of the thread. Dose depends on so many individual factors. Supplementation ranges from 800-4000 IU/day. Most suggest you start with 1000 IUs unless you show symptoms of deficiency like any of the diseases listed. The rest may be obtained from food and sun if you are outdoors a lot at a high elevation. From 1000 IU, you gradually work up to where you feel good, alert and have energy. It's recommended that levels should be increased gradually over two week stretches with each increase.

Though D is not toxic, reactions if you have too much D are irritability, increased appetite, edginess, inability to sleep, and skin itchiness. Some people get headaches.

And don't forget your calcium and magnesium with the D.
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I read the links and found there to be a huge variation in the recommendations. I think that I will start with 1200 IUs and see how it goes.

What is strange is that skin itchiness is listed as a vitamin D reaction. Every winter I get really itchy legs without taking any D (other than what is in the multi).
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What is strange is that skin itchiness is listed as a vitamin D reaction. Every winter I get really itchy legs without taking any D (other than what is in the multi).[/QUOTE]

This itchiness is in the face. The itchiness of legs in winter denotes dry skin and dry skin denotes a lack of D, and of essential oils.
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Hi, Zule, I'm with you again.

Not taking anything else for my SAD this year yet. Still have the light but haven't felt the need for it yet.

Started upping the dose the last week of September and am now at 1,200 a day.

Wish I could get everyone in my family to realize the issue!!!
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