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Originally Posted by tomadom
Thanks again for that.. I understand what you are saying. The potato example comes from the fact that it's only starch. I don't mean 'just potato', I just used that as a high GL (Glycemic Load) example because it does not contain the proteins that grains do. If you are high in cortisol then your digestion suffers and you have difficulty absorbing grain proteins such as gluten in wheat and avenin in oats. This can lead to an inflammatory response to your body raising stress and hence cortisol levels. Excessively high cortisol makes you insulin resistant. Grains certainly give me brain fog due to the fact that they are not broken down in the gut, they then enter the intestines and ferment.. I'm sure you know all this.
I used potato because it's just starch. I don't have IBS so I absorb them well and they are relatively safe despite the fact that they are contain dual sugar molecules. No problem.
YOU ARE RIGHT IN WHAT YOU SAY... starch may hurt some but not others... but WHY? I think it could be because of adrenal activity. Eg. A person suffers from adrenal fatigue, they are constantly tired without a boost of high GL carbs. That person heads High GL carbs and their body is less stressed because it is doing everything it has to do and is not trying to draw more energy it doesn't have. If that person doesn't receive them it stresses the body, raises cortisol and the insulin resistant affects ensue. Could it be that the level of adrenal stress in a person governs what type of carbs (high or low GL) they should eat to forge ahead? If they don't get them then their body goes into a state of stress.. You are knowledgeable, I can see that, what affect does stress have on the body in terms of weight.
I had this from a young age, before my teens. My father died young and had shaky hands as far back as I can remember. He felt stress led to this. But I now think that his condition (stressed) and his life stressors, lead to this. I was developing the same body type as him until I upped my higher (Glycemic Load----- GL) carb intake with every meal. Could that be the key to weight control for a stressed body type?
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I haven't seen you talk about fat yet. If you only have 10 pounds of excess fat, and you were doing lots of exercise on nothing but protein and veg, then yes, that is a stressor and could send your stress hormones high, which is a sugar-burning situation. Even if you had tons of protein you still would not have been having enough fat to fuel your fat-burning machinery and you end up staying a sugar-burner - which is what the high cortisol state is.
I would recommend reading Tom Venuto on metabolic damage. He has articles about what happens when you do high activity on low calories and why it can make you skinny fat with the roll around the middle. He's not a low carber but he does advocate low carbs for some people in some situations.
And then read Mark Sisson. He has articles on why fat is the preferred fuel, and higher carb adaptations for athletes.
Mark Sisson also talks about stress and rest from a balance of activity and the food to fuel such activity. There's no one article for your specific question. It's not that some people go low carb and then cortisol goes high so they have to eat carbs, there is so much more going on.
It's like teaser said, some people burn glucose more quickly than their body can make it from protein, especially when they're also not eating fat and who knows how much protein, and are not fat-adapted. That is definitely a stressor. But it also depends on what's your volume and frequency of sugar-burning exercise, what protein and fat you're eating, what is your volume and frequency of rest. very individual in my opinion. |
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