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Old Fri, Aug-03-01, 23:18
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Plan: Forever Slim(Dr Robert Harris)
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Thumbs up FOREVER SLIM DIET (Dr Robert Harris)

The forever slim diet is a low carb diet as well.
You dont eat any carbs whatsoever until after 6-00pm.
After this time you can have your allotted carb for the day.The carb total for each person is worked out according to their correct height to weight ratio.In my case because Im 5 feet 3 inches I should weigh 60kgs and therefore should eat only 37 grams of carbs per day.
We can eat any kind of carbs after 6-00pm as long as they dont exceed the allotted amount.
I hope this sort of explains the diet.


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Old Fri, Aug-03-01, 23:31
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Default Re: FOREVER SLIM DIET (Dr Robert Harris)

Originally posted by dazza

I hope this sort of explains the diet.

Thanks Dazza, yes it does explain it. Would you be able to answer a few more questions and clarification to fit the following format:

This should help presenting each plan in a similar structure.


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Old Sat, Jan-06-07, 23:37
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Plan: Slim Forever
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Perhaps I can add a description of this diet plan which I am currently working with. My edition of the book is known as Slim Forever by Robert Harris

1. Plan's name: Slim Forever

2. Date: Original publication 1993

3, Basic Philosophy/Strategy: High Protein Low-Carb

This diet follows a fairly simple structure that involves a weight loss mode and a maintenance mode.
Initially you need to determine your lean body weight as a target. Dr Harris advocates your 20 year old body weight (unless you were particularly under or overweight at this age) – This is claimed to equate your physical maturity. Harris doesn’t believe in calculation your current daily food allowance based on your current overweight self but rather on where you want to get to.

The Diet allows daily food allowance based on the target weight. Examples of Protein and carbs are given for differing target weights

Lean Body weight Daily Protein Weight Loss Carb Maintenance Carbs
50kg 110lb 320g 11 oz 29g 43g
60kg 132lb 375g 13.5oz 35g 53g
70kg 154lb 450g 15.5oz 40g 60g
80kg 176lb 510g 18 oz 45g 67g

Harris measures protein and carbs differently. Protein foods are actual weight of the food (half the weight of eggs) Carb content of individual foods allows you to fill up on low carb “carb” foods (eg asparagus 3.5oz = 1 carb compared with Rice Krispy 3.5oz = 88g of carbs)

Fats and oils not counted but you are encouraged to use sparingly (eg trim fat down to 1/8th inch on meats)

Main Rules to follow
1 Stick to your Daily allowance
2 Do not eat more or less today to allow for another days over or under indulgence – strict 24 hr body clock
3 During weight loss No carbs before evening meal
4 Include fresh oils and fats in daily diet
5 Occasional overindulgence is no mortal sin – may set back your weight loss by a few days
6 You are what you eat
7 Dont count calories - Calories do not take into account whether the body can use the energy – cellulous material adds to the calculation of calories but cannot be injested.

6. Typical menu suggestions:


Country Pork Sausage
Scrambled eggs
Pork Stirfry
Devilled Kidneys


Beef Patty Melt
Lemon Chicken Kababs
Thai Fish Cakes
Mushroom stuffed with ham and cheese
Chicken, tuna or salmon salad
Tuna and cheese casserole

Seafood, chicken, pork lamb or beef within the limits of your carb allowance

Drinks Alcohol permitted subject to carb allowance

7. Emphasis on: Fat, Sugar, Protein or Exercise

Justification of the “no carbs till dinner” model is that we are seeking to limit the blood sugar from carbs during the active part of the day to encourage break down of fat stores, but by allowing the carbs in the evening we avoid the body switching to starvation mode and commencing to breakdown muscle.

Added 9. About the author. Brief bio and credentials.

Robert Harris DC Doctor of Chirpractory Queensland Australia based

No current active website found, occasional current affairs show appearances in Australia

Accompanying cook book volume appears to have been produced.

Widely criticized by Australian “Nutritionalists” as being dangerous due to its emphasis on high protein (but they misquote his work for their own convenience and are forced to grudgingly accept that even the Aus Govt CSIRO promotes low carb diets. Harris is clearly identified as not being one of them (and not even being a “real” doctor) Some of Harris’s explanations are at the more extreme end of thinking and would be offensive to traditionalist vegan theory that permeates the mainstream nutritionalist literature.
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Old Wed, Jan-31-07, 10:51
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If you eat all your carbs after 6 PM, don't you develop a headache from not having an at breakfast and lunch? Also, aren't all the carbs stored as fat if you eat them that late in the day?
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