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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 16:17
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Thumbs down Great.........Now RED meat is bad too?

Gee, nothing left but cigs & whiskey!


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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 16:21
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Red read meat is so bad for you...stop eating it

There is always turkey, chicken breast, salmon... yum yum

Its actually similar to what my fave little people in okinawa experienced when they migrated abroad. They ate much more red meat and they went from almost 0 risk of breast, prostate cancer to very high risk, when they broke the data down more they showed that not all experienced increase risk when they moved abroad, it was dose dependant on how much red meat they ingested.

bad bad bad! and its horrible anyway

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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 17:22
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see... this is where my .sig line comes in perfectly .

seriously though, i did NOT need anything else increasing my risk of breast cancer. it already runs in my direct familiy (both my mom and one of my aunts were diagnosed with it).

but caryn, i second you on the cigs and whiskey!
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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 17:36
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<shrug> NOT eating certainly casuses death, so me and my boobies will have a steak and take our chances...
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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 17:45
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i agree....it was low fat all the way when i was a kid. And then I ended up 211lbs. It's some new study every day about what is bad for us now. Eggs for example....

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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 18:03
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err what about moderate amount of fat

why is it either very low or very high?
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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 18:32
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Great.........Now RED meat is bad too?


Oh hell, red meat has been deadly for decades!!!!!

Problem is, almost all the studies, all that I've seen, lump red meat and processed meats in one category!!! Processed meats, loaded with transfats and/or chemicals certainly ARE bad.....but red meat is just part of nature....and at least in this case, nature is yummy!!!
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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 18:33
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err what about moderate amount of fat

why is it either very low or very high?
I think that 60% to 70% of calories from fat is moderate.
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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 19:47
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Aw crap, I just looked up the definition of Red Meat. It is any meat from a mammal. So I guess that'd include pork, seal, bison, deer, lion but not include fish or fowl.

Well, until they can describe or at least hypthesize a REASON for read meat causing breast cancer, I remain skeptical.
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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 20:01
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Dang, Nancy! I was all set to have a loin of lion, and now it's ruined. <sigh>
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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 20:09
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That's almost a palindromish thingy: Loin of Lion. Gotta work on that.
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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 20:23
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Default The wisdom of white food

It certainly was a tough time for the native americans before the whitemen came, what with their bags of life-giving white flour and sugar. Whole tribes were dropping dead in the plains from hardening of the arteries because of their addiction to buffalo, the ultimate red meat natural junk food.

I'm so glad that articles like these impart their wisdom to us.

Now let's all gargle with soy milk!
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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 20:27
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Well, until they can describe or at least hypthesize a REASON for read meat causing breast cancer, I remain skeptical.


They come up with a new reason every month. First it's alcohol, then they come out with a study that moderate alcohol consumption can help deter breast cancer. I'm sure we can all collectively think of many other studies.
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Red read meat is so bad for you...stop eating it

There is always turkey, chicken breast, salmon... yum yum

Its actually similar to what my fave little people in okinawa experienced when they migrated abroad. They ate much more red meat and they went from almost 0 risk of breast, prostate cancer to very high risk, when they broke the data down more they showed that not all experienced increase risk when they moved abroad, it was dose dependant on how much red meat they ingested.

bad bad bad! and its horrible anyway
i guess you'd better alert the masai and inuit that they shouldn't maintain their all-red-meat diets if they move abroad, huh? ludicrous!
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Old Mon, Nov-13-06, 21:08
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…almost twice as likely to develop hormone-related breast cancer
I would put my money on substances added to industrially manufactured “red” meat. How is it that these studies keep finding that foods eaten by billions of people all over the world for millennia are suddenly, in the last one hundred years or so, becoming deadly? Was it red meat that wiped out the Massi?
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