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Old Sat, Jul-15-23, 03:10
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Default Scientists Build a Healthy Dietary Pattern Using Ultra-Processed Foods

That's the headline. I don't believe it. Not a bit of it.The SELLING begins in earnest now.

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https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-event...0scale)%20while

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Scientists at the USDA Agricultural Research Service's (ARS) Grand Forks Human Nutrition Research Center led a study that demonstrates it is possible to build a healthy diet with 91 percent of the calories coming from ultra-processed foods (as classified using the NOVA scale) while still following the recommendations from the 2020-2025 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGA). The study highlights the versatility of using DGA recommendations in constructing healthy menus.


My bold. Because DAY-UM, this is corporate agriculture with a vengeance. And we are paying for this kind of nonsense. It's about the versatility. It's about constructing healthy menus. With lego blocks for all the use it is in nutrition, and poison for our metabolism as it gets confused and tells the wrong places in our brain to do the wrong things.

This is like the ultimate in petri-dish science. This isn't food. I never realized, prior to recent developments, how much it isn't FOOD at all. I just thought I was "sensitive" to all these foods! No wonder I am, these aren't foods!

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To test if ultra-processed foods can be used to build a healthy diet, ARS scientists and collaborators created a menu with breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks using MyPyramid as a guide for a seven-day, 2,000-calorie food pattern The menu consisted of foods categorized as ultra-processed by at least two NOVA graders. The foods included in the menu also aligned with 2020 DGA recommendations for servings of groups and subgroups of fruits, vegetables, grains, protein foods, and dairy. Scientists selected food products that have lower levels of saturated fats and added sugars while still containing enough micronutrients and macronutrients. Some of the ultra-processed foods used in this menu included canned beans, instant oatmeal, ultra-filtered milk, whole wheat bread, and dried fruit.


At this point I decided to accept Maribel.Alonso~usda.gov email invite at the top to tell me what I thought, titled: "This UPF nonsense is killing people"

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Now murdering citizens, slowly, is part of your health mandate from we, the citizens? That's my official response, from this "research" station. "How to sell lab concoctions to make people fat and sick" is too long.

It's likely you are not a scientist, you are a marketing person. Here's my focused response regarding this PR venture. Stop lying about UPF. This is in response to the latest research from the UK, isn't it?

My advice is to rethink all your lives. Because, do YOU eat that way? You are probably working hard to NOT have to eat like that, don't you? Why are you deciding to be part of the problem?

But all of you must look in the mirror now and then, no? To not lie about what you do for a living, which is helping people kill themselves with addictive substances, would make this article against both scientific rigor and simple humanity. A sarcastic "well done!" to all of you.

Not what you imagined your life would be like, I'm sure. And it's not you, personally, is it? It's the MACHINE and you just obey the MACHINE, and maybe you eat real food... and maybe you fall in the trap of food addiction.

Even if you know the truth. Because that's what lying for a living does. Maybe, just maybe, our food system shouldn't come in boxes or bags. It shouldn't have UPF and it shouldn't have tags.

Maybe we all should eat to live. Not eat to serve the top of capitalism.

That's what I think of your bizarre, contrarian, "exercise on paper" article. You can assign a macros category to this stuff, but our bodies don't recognize it as food?

You do know that, don't you?

With great indignation and no personal animus,

Pamela Merritt

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Best not to tick off WearBear!

I picked up the Ultra-processed People book and started reading last night. Kevin Hall had already confirmed the research into processed foods from Brazil, although that was a small but very tightly controlled study where all the food was provided.

"Ultra processed diets cause excess calories intake and weight gain: an inpatient randomized controlled trial of ad libitum food intake in Cellular Metabolism, 2019. This USDA employee has probably been preparing for an effective popular book and video to turn this paper into something that people understand.

The NIH spent buckets of money on Kevin Hall's study, and the USDA counters it?
I think Taubes wrote this years ago ..The USDA should never have been given any input on what Americans eat. Their job is to support and help market US agricultural products, full stop. Scientists at NIH should have unbiased views on what products and eating patterns keep the nation healthy. I have new views about Kevin Hall…he went into this RCT thinking he would find no link to the processing, but they did and he reported it. Same with his carb studies done with NuSi.

Or they can just sit back and wait because yesterday PepsiCo announced continual high sales increase in their snack food division. Up 14% in North America snacks. Doritos, Cheetos and a Mountain Dew.

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Old Sat, Jul-15-23, 15:22
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I think we all realize where this is going. Making cheap food readily available to the masses during this food availability crisis. Of course, what’s not revealed is that the real objective is to enable the food manufacturers to make food from available plant sources that are farmed and touted as green, ethical, and environmentally safe. These sources are also abundant, absent of any significant nutrients, don’t spoil, and are cheap to acquire before being turned into frankenfoods. It also continues to help maintain the low quality of world health by contributing to the current epidemic of metabolic and cardiovascular diseases, so it’s likely vigorously supported by the pharmaceuticals. Fortunately, we haven’t lost our freedom to eat how we want, but rising prices of whole foods are a troubling harbinger for the future.
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Sheesh. The effort to push garbage is $4#(&$/&$#........No longer shocking. But it will convince too many that eating garbage is safe.

Thank goodness we know better.

(Eating out of garden doesnt allow for making processed foods. All the veg are whole. And wholesome.)
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Remember the 2008 Chinese Milk scandal when they were selling baby formula with melamine to cheaply boost the apparent protein content? The macros matched those of real milk, but 54,000 babies were sickened and 4 died.
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Remember the 2008 Chinese Milk scandal when they were selling baby formula with melamine to cheaply boost the apparent protein content? The macros matched those of real milk, but 54,000 babies were sickened and 4 died.


Yes, and thousands of pets, sick and dead, in North America.
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