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Old Wed, Sep-29-21, 00:04
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Dieters should avoid some sugar-free drinks, meal replacements and sweeteners because they could increase their appetite, researchers say.

Sucralose, an artificial sweetener, increases food cravings and appetite in women and people who are obese, according to one of the largest studies of its kind. Anyone wanting to lose or maintain weight should “reach for a glass of water” instead.

Sold under the brand name Splenda, sucralose is one of seven artificial sweeteners approved for use in Britain.

Researchers in the United States studied the effects on brain activity and appetite responses of an artificial sweetener. After having a drink sweetened with sucralose the area of the brain responsible for food cravings and appetite became highly active in women and people who were obese.

Similarly, the hormone that signals to the body “I feel full” decreased after a sweetened drink, suggesting that products with sucralose may not be effective in suppressing hunger. This was seen in men and women of all weights.

Food and drink containing artificial sugar substances are consumed by many people as a way to avoid unnecessary calories, but there is no clear consensus on their effects on appetite, glucose metabolism and body weight.

Sucralose is used in diet drinks such as Monster Energy Absolute Zero and meal replacement powders by the brand Huel. It is used widely as a supermarket own brand artificial sweetener for tea and coffee and in some products in the Canderel range of sweeteners.

For the research, published in the journal JAMA Network Open, 74 participants consumed 300 millilitres of a drink sweetened with table sugar, a drink sweetened with sucralose or water as a control at different times. An imaging tool measured activity in parts of the brain responsible for food cravings and appetite when participants were shown pictures of a doughnut, burger and other highly caloric foods.

Researchers also measured levels of glucose, insulin and other metabolic hormones in the blood and recorded how much food participants ate later from a snack buffet. Women ate more after having the drink containing sucralose than they did after the drink with sugar, whereas snack food intake did not change for men.

Kathleen Page, the lead author and an associate professor of medicine at the Keck School of Medicine, said: “There is controversy surrounding the use of artificial sweeteners because a lot of people are using them for weight loss.

“While some studies suggest they may be helpful, others show they may be contributing to weight gain, type 2 diabetes and other metabolic disorders. Our study looked at different population groups to tease out some of the reasons behind those conflicting results.”



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-diet-tcbwzz720
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Old Wed, Sep-29-21, 08:52
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Very interesting.
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Old Wed, Sep-29-21, 12:40
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Thanks, Demi, but there seems to be a pay wall, so I can't read the article. I'd like to have seen references, as I'm wondering about the study the journalist cites indicating that "Sucralose, an artificial sweetener, increases food cravings and appetite in women and people who are obese, according to one of the largest studies of its kind." I'd like to identify the study, not because I disagree, I just want to see how recent it is, how it was constructed, and who was involved.
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Old Wed, Sep-29-21, 13:17
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Thanks, Demi, but there seems to be a pay wall, so I can't read the article. I'd like to have seen references, as I'm wondering about the study the journalist cites indicating that "Sucralose, an artificial sweetener, increases food cravings and appetite in women and people who are obese, according to one of the largest studies of its kind." I'd like to identify the study, not because I disagree, I just want to see how recent it is, how it was constructed, and who was involved.
I posted the complete article and there weren't any references cited.

However it did state that the study was published in the journal JAMA Network Open:

Obesity and Sex-Related Associations With Differential Effects of Sucralose vs Sucrose on Appetite and Reward Processing

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...article/2784545
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Old Wed, Sep-29-21, 13:27
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I posted the complete article and there weren't any references cited.

However it did state that the study was published in the journal JAMA Network Open:

Obesity and Sex-Related Associations With Differential Effects of Sucralose vs Sucrose on Appetite and Reward Processing

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...article/2784545

Many thanks.
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Made a lc cake in a cup for lunch today and put this info to work..... Chose the erythritol/stevia over the sucralose.
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I actually sweeten my water with a little stevia a lot of the time just to encourage me to drink more, since I am prone to dehydration now and then. But yeah, sweetening food is generally a more risky proposition for me.
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I've become more Stevia, less Sucralose. And sweeteners become less important; I make coffee, cocoa, and yogurt mixes without any.
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Fortunately there are loads of other non-caloric sweeteners out there nowadays. I got a monk fruit, erythritol blend that is just super.
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In my experience, it's best to simply stop with the sweet treats, "legal" or not. Once you lose your taste for sweetness, you're on a better path than those who keep the taste for sweetness ever-present in LC brownies, cheesecakes, cookies, cakes, bars, shakes, etc. I've seen so many people over the years who start eating low-carb foods, and yet the first thing they do is to figure out all the low-carb treats they can have made with artificial sweeteners.

If you can handle it, fine. I've had my best successes through the years when I've cut out all sweet foods. Perhaps that's not for everyone, but it's worth thinking about.
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In my experience, it's best to simply stop with the sweet treats, "legal" or not. Once you lose your taste for sweetness, you're on a better path than those who keep the taste for sweetness ever-present in LC brownies, cheesecakes, cookies, cakes, bars, shakes, etc. I've seen so many people over the years who start eating low-carb foods, and yet the first thing they do is to figure out all the low-carb treats they can have made with artificial sweeteners.

If you can handle it, fine. I've had my best successes through the years when I've cut out all sweet foods. Perhaps that's not for everyone, but it's worth thinking about.

Amen. I've had the same experience, and over time, the desire for anything sweet goes away. Good recommendations.
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Amen. I've had the same experience, and over time, the desire for anything sweet goes away. Good recommendations.


I use no sweeteners either, neither legal or not. I've been doing this for years. Works for me.
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In my experience, it's best to simply stop with the sweet treats, "legal" or not. Once you lose your taste for sweetness


I remember the days when I made a cake, ate the whole thing, cause it wasn't perfect made another one. Addiction!

When back on the low carb wagon, lc sweets are rare. The need drops remarkably fast.
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I had a friend at work who decided to try low-carb. First thing she did was find a recipe for peanut butter cookies and munched on those all day long. "Uh, you're kind of missing the point here."

Several years ago there was a thread about what people ate at the movies. Lots and lots of suggestions for "legal" treats. I suggested that maybe it's better not to have treats or eat mindlessly at the movie. I didn't say it, but you really can't go for 90 minutes without eating? Well, I was the bad guy in that post. First the original poster said she was NOT eating mindlessly, but did like something to munch on. Sure I like munching all day long too (or at least used to), but if you're in this to regain your health and lose a few pounds, why would you keep up the habits that got you into the situation to begin with? Yup, I was sure characterized as the party pooper.

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Sure I like munching all day long too (or at least used to), but if you're in this to regain your health and lose a few pounds, why would you keep up the habits that got you into the situation to begin with? Yup, I was sure characterized as the party pooper.
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