I think I have to stop reading this site - it's so heart-breaking what these folks are being told.....

A Day in the Life at Kimkins

Someone apparently asked Kimmer for some help and gave up her fitday link for review and Kimmer congratulated her on how well she was doing. The fitday was included in the above article and the poor thing was eating less than 500-calories a day on average!

It just makes me so sad when I read that this lady wasn't told to eat more, that her problem isn't that she's eating too much, but that she's not eating enough.

That's exactly what they've been saying about Atkins dieters and Dr. Atkins for years.

The difference, Happy, is that there is a wealth of peer-reviewed medical studies that show a low carb diet IS beneficial and healthy, and there is likewise even more evidence showing that vLCD's are extraordinarily dangerous, even fatal.

vLCD's are generally categorized as diets with less than 800 calories a day.

A typical day on Atkins induction is far above 500 calories.

Interesting -

"Skeletal Courtney Love Takes Dieting To Extreme"

From the article -



Sounds familiar...

Oh, I'm not defending the Kimkins diet. I just don't like seeing people being accused looking for the easy way, or a quick fix. That is the way Atkins dieters have always been described and we all know it's not true.

Why else would someone do Kimkins if not for fast-fast losses, coupled with advertised lack of exercise?

The advertising sells fast losses with no exercise, and people are claiming they don't care if KK doesn't even exist-- they just want results.

I can't think of anytime I'd ever say, "I'll take their advice whether they exist or not."

I'm not accusing the people that have started kimkins of anything at all. I'm only accusing the founder of the plan of a) promoting a very dangerous diet plan and b) not proving her claims.

The people following the plan innocently and honestly wanted to lose weight fast - they haven't done anything wrong.

I thought I read someone's comment that Kimmer had used Courtney Love as a "celebrity client." Should have stuck to heroin, Courtney ...

stimulating conversation indeed

They are based on high carb eating. There is a metabolic advantage in low carb dieting which reaches its extremity when the carb intake reaches zero. I think the 800 calories lower limit needs to be modified to a considrably smaller value when it applies to a person whose carb intake is too low.

Wow, that would be fraudulent-- Anyone have the sample menu that appeared in the mag?

Oh...thanks for clearing that up. (Anything that reminds me of the typical anti-Atkins attack gets my dander up! )

I don't have the magazine anymore, but when I read the sample menu, my first reaction was "That's not Kimkins!" I figured the magazine made them spruce it up a little to make it look less like a crash diet.

Okay. You're probably right.

Actually, no, the data from metabolic ward studies, investigating various macronutrient mixes DO include zero-carb and low-carb (0g to <20g total carbohydrate each day) and they're included in the research used in making the standards of care recommendations that diets comprised of 800-or-less calories each day need to be medically supervised. That calorie level is recognized as starvation level and can present some really nasty health problems, even in those deemed "medically appropriate" candidates (ie morbidly obese with BMI greater than 35)