Originally Posted by Angeline

Isn't McDougall a very low fat diet?

Seems to me that part of your problem on McDougall, is that you are simply not eating enough fat.

I got the impression from your posts that you oscillate between an all meat diet which made you feel best and a McDougall diet (which i understand to be vegetarian, low-fat), which you liked best.

I'm not surprised you are having problems. I don't think I could do it either. Even when hungry, I am not especially attracted to meat. I'm fine with meat along side my salad, or vegs, or cooked in a stew, but on its own? Bleh.

I think maybe you need to stop the extremes. Do a sort of addition (as opposed to elimination) diet. Start with meat, which you know you tolerate well, but do not especially like. Add things back gradually and see how you tolerate them. Add food one at a time, and monitor yourself for any reactions. Keep a strict food journal.

The food that are most commonly allergenic are grain containing glutens, milk, eggs, nuts (especially peanuts).

Make sure to eat lots of good fat (satured and mono). I think that your hunger on McDougall was due to the effect of all those carbs on your blood sugar, unmitigated by any fat.
BTW, your symptoms sounds a lot like hypoglycemia.

As for your gut issues, you are obviously intolerant to a few things. Take a lot at this series, it's very interesting

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=235

Originally Posted by AnniMin

I saw on the news that the University of Oregon is using John McDougall's diet as part of their Health and Sciences cirriculum. I'm not sure in what context, if they are studying the effects of his diet or what, but its interesting that they are giving it valid consideration. The McDougall diet is extreme, it would be hard for the average person to stick to, but those that do stick to it have remarkable results in lessening symptoms of MS and heart disease, so maybe the university believes its worth looking into.

Originally Posted by AimeeJoi

I tried his diet and honestly did better weight and energy wise than i did on lc.

Originally Posted by Angeline

Why are people so attracted to extremes? There is a middle ground between ultra low fat vegan and zero carbs diet. I believe that ultra low fat vegan diets are unhealthy because of the lack of two essential macro nutrients, but why not add a little meat and a lot more fat.

Originally Posted by Shobha

Good point.
The evidence does not suggest our ancestors eating only meat or only plants (except a few rare tribes maybe, who had no access to plants). We ate both. Plus some nuts, berries, tubers etc.

Originally Posted by HappyLC

Why did you go off it?

Originally Posted by BigBenny

They may have eaten tubers, nuts, berries later on in our evolution, but when you say something like that, people automatically assume "Sweet I can eat nuts, fruit, berries, tubers, and a little bit of meat and I'm set!"

While eating that way would be better than eating the SAD, it should be noted that the primary source (and preferred) of calories and nutrition came from meat

Originally Posted by Shobha

I am not sure there is conclusive evidence towards that end. I think the evidence only shows that meat was definitely a part of the diet.

Plus I think that if people cut out all refined carbs, including grains and sugar, they can avoid most if not all of the harm. So they dont have to eat tons of meat.

Originally Posted by Satya13

Lucy’s Kin Carved Up a Meaty Meal, Scientists Say

Before the last 10 kya, the climate was colder and plants were not as readily available as they are now.