I started Induction again last Friday, and yesterday began the Fat Fast. I have lost 7 lbs, three from Friday to Sunday, and down four more from Sunday to this morning. I am going to do the fat fast for another day or so. I must just be one of the metabolically resistant ones! The book suggests no vigorous exercise on the fat fast, anyone had any experience here? I like to run three miles every other day, and do some ab work every night. I will go back on induction in a few days, but am going to try this for at least three days.

Hi ccook, congrats on the 7 lbs loss.

What were you doing before induction?

Wa'il

I had been doing induction (no cheating) for six weeks. I did not lose even one pound. I gave up and started eating low fat again for two days. I craved everything in the kitchen. Decided to go back on induction, did that for two days and then tried the fat fast. That is when the weight started to come off. I have not lost any more since then but I am running every other day and doing ab exercises, so I am sure i am buring muscle. Just took a long time for my body to let go of the weight. Cheryl

oops, i meant building muscle, not burning it. Cheryl

I tried this last week-end from Friday to Monday, I mis-read the lowfat cheese bit so did eat normal full fat cheese...
I lost 4lb after being on a stall for 4 months this was great and not quite as harsh as the Fat fast.

The Doctor's Quick Weight Loss Diet
by Irwin Maxwell Stillman M.D., Samm Sinclair Baker


THE QUICK LOSS METHOD

This is a severe form of ketogenic diet. It is not easily
sustainable for the longterm. It may be useful in breaking
plateaus and in those too impatient to allow their bodies
to take the fat off gradually at its own pace.

NOTHING ELSE IS PERMITTED ON THIS DIET--NOTHING! IF IT'S NOT
MENTIONED IN THE FOLLOWING LIST, DON'T EAT OR DRINK IT.

Eat all you wish of the following foods to satisfy hunger.
If you eat until you've satisfied your hunger but haven't stuffed
yourself, and then feel hungry before the next meal, you can eat
again, but only from the foods listed here. In fact, you're better
off eating smaller meals 6 times a day than 3 bigger meals as is
the general custom. But you limit yourself to this extensive list
of high protein foods.

1. LEAN MEATS,with all possible fat trimmed off. Includes beef,
lamb, veal. Eat it broiled, boiled, baked or smoked. No butter,
margarine, oil or other fats or grease are to be used either in
the cooking or the eating.

2. CHICKEN AND TURKEY with all skin removed. Broiled, boiled
or roasted, with no butter, margarine, oil or other fats or greases.
Young fowl is preferable but not necessary.

3. ALL LEAN FISH such as flounder, haddock, cod and perch;
SEAFOOD: shrimps, scallops, lobsters, oysters, clams, crabs.
No butter, margarine, oil or other fats or greases permitted in
preparation or serving. You may have cocktail sauce, horseradish,
ketchup-in moderation.

4. EGGS. Hard boiled preferably. Also soft or medium boiled eggs,
poached, or any type of fried eggs made in non-fat, non-stick pans
without butter, margarine, oil or other fats or greases.

5. COTTAGE CHEESE, FARMER CHEESE, POT CHEESE made
with skim milk and no whole milk.

6. AT LEAST 8 GLASSES OF WATER PER DAY, absolutely essential
(10 ounce glasses). As much as you want of coffee and tea without
cream, milk or sugar. You may sweeten with non-caloric sweeteners
to taste. Enjoy all the club soda, vichy and non-caloric carbonated
beverages you wish, as often as desired.

The eight <10 ounce> glasses of water daily are in addition to
whatever coffee, tea and non-caloric carbonated beverages you
drink. This is an integral part of the specific internal process put
into motion by the Quick Weight Loss Diet. Much more of your
body fat is burned up than with most other diets. This leaves in
its wake the waste products or ashes of burnt fat. [ketone bodies]
They must all be washed out of your system by water which also
serves to relieve any unpleasant dryness and taste in the mouth.

Note: ketone bodies are not ashes, they are the by-product
of incomplete burning of fats. Ketones are to fat as charcoal is to
wood. Ketones can be burned for fuel by your body. Most people
have feedback loops to protect against ketosis-acidosis.

You may use common seasonings such as salt, pepper, garlic,
cloves, thyme, other herbs and spices, cocktail sauce, tabasco
sauce, horseradish, ketchup. Don't use any creamy or oily sauces
or dressings. No mayonaise, no salad dressings, no oils, no fats.

It is desirable to take vitamins daily with the diet, such as a
once-daily vitamin and mineral tablet.

NOTHING ELSE IS PERMITTED ON THIS DIET--NOTHING! IF IT'S NOT
MENTIONED IN THE PRECEDING LIST, DON'T EAT OR DRINK IT.

If you disregard the instructions and eat regular carbohydrates
or sugar or alcohol, you will stop burning up stored fat as
efficiently. Even one indiscretion, one mouthful of ice cream, for
example, will set you back a day or two.

You will lose the most weight on The Quick Loss Diet, most quickly,
if you eat only to satisfy your humger pangs rather than to gratify
a desire to eat just for the pleasure of eating.

This diet has practically no residue (fiber). Therefore it is likely
that you may not have a bowel movement for a few days, although
not necessarily so. In any case don't be alarmed by any such lack.
[note: extra vitamin C or milk of magnesia is helpful in some cases]

Oooooooohhhh.. this sounds wonderful. I am so glad for you!

Since this was orignially posted, may I ask if you kept the 7 lbs off?

A few people from another board mentioned that you can gain what you lost after going off the FF, if you don't do certain things.
They did not mention what those "few things " were however.

I'd like to know how to go about not regaining what was lost before attempting the FF. It's not easy (so I have heard) and would hate to have it wasted.

When you said "burning muscle". Have you read the book "Protein Power?" He has a page in there that has four photos, all of the same guy. In the first he is a runner. Very emaciated looking with no muscle at all, in the second he has quit running and about a year or 2 later is VERY fat. In the third he has been lifting weights and the photo is taken about 6 months after the fat one. In the fourth he is no longer lifting weights as much, but he is still muscular.

The explanation about all the running and the inadequate diet using up all this guy's muscle made a lot of sense. He said that a lot of runners do this to themselves. They increase their metabolism, but don't actually build muscle. Since they don't they wind up in a catch-22 situation where they have to keep running just to maintain their weight. If they stop running they gain at an alarming rate. The solution is to build muscle through weight lifting, and adequate protein.

You might want to find a copy of it and at least read that chapter.