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Old Tue, Feb-17-04, 18:30
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Default Study suggests vegetarian diet may cut cancer risk

Vegetarian diet may cut cancer risk

Last Updated: 2004-02-16 12:17:20 -0400 (Reuters Health)

By Alison McCook

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Eating a meat-free, vegetarian diet may reduce the risk of colorectal cancer, new research suggests.

After following more than 10,000 people for 17 years, investigators found that vegetarians were 15 percent less likely to develop colorectal cancer than meat-eaters.

This study adds to the "increasing scientific evidence" that a diet rich in fruit, vegetables and fiber and low in meat--especially red and processed meat--can prevent colorectal cancer, study author Dr. Miguel Sanjoaquin of the University of Oxford, UK, told Reuters Health.

However, Sanjoaquin cautioned that only a small number of study participants -95--developed colorectal cancer, making it impossible to determine if fewer vegetarians developed cancer simply due to chance.

However, Sanjoaquin noted that a previous study featuring more cases of colorectal cancer confirmed these findings, and he added that it makes sense that eating vegetarian could cut cancer risk. The fat in red meat increases the excretion of substances called bile acids, he explained, which in turn produce other substances that encourage tumor growth.

Furthermore, meat contains natural compounds and substances formed during processing and high-temperature cooking that can disrupt the normal balance of cell growth in the colon, potentially triggering the cancer, Sanjoaquin noted.

Alternatively, substances in fruits and vegetables-- staples of the vegetarian diet--"may inhibit these adverse effects," he added.

During the current study, Sanjoaquin and his colleagues asked 10,998 adults about their eating habits and other health parameters, then noted who developed colorectal cancer.

People were classified as non-vegetarians if they ate meat or fish. Vegetarians included vegans, who avoid all dairy and meat products.

Along with a decreased risk of cancer from eating vegetarian, the investigators found that frequent fruit eaters - consuming more than 5 servings of fruit per week--were over 40 percent less likely to develop colorectal cancer.

Smoking, drinking alcohol and eating more than 15 slices of white bread per week appeared to increase the risk of colorectal cancer, according to the British Journal of Cancer report.

Sanjoaquin said the fact that white bread appeared to reduce cancer risk was "unexpected," and suggested that people who ate large amounts of white bread might have simply had a less healthy diet overall.

Alternatively, he added researchers have noted that eating large quantities of refined carbohydrates, such as those found in white bread, may raise colorectal cancer risk, suggesting that white bread itself may also play a role.

"More research will be needed to clarify this," Sanjoaquin said.

SOURCE: British Journal of Cancer, January 12, 2004.


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Old Tue, Feb-17-04, 18:59
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1. Sounds like he designed and interpreted a study to find what he wanted to find. Everything else is speculation.

2. 15% less likely? Out of a total of 95 colorectal cancer cases? From a universe of 10,000 people, followed for 17 years? Miniscule effect, impossible to draw ANYTHING from that. Besides, why only 15% less risk? If a vegan diet is so perfect,

3. It was based on what people SAID they ate. Not anything they measured or observed.

4. Sounds like he designed and interpreted a study to find what he wanted to find. See a lot of this nowadays.

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Old Tue, Feb-17-04, 19:42
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...making it impossible to determine if fewer vegetarians developed cancer simply due to chance.


Translation: no statistically significant difference between these two groups was detected.

This study does not even support the conclusions of the previous study on which they base all of their subsequent speculations and discussion. Weird science.
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Old Tue, Feb-17-04, 20:02
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The actual study can be read at the British Journal of Cancer website.
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Results:

......... Vegetarians showed a moderately but nonsignificantly lower risk of colorectal cancer compared with the nonvegetarians ... but this association became weaker after adjusting for smoking and alcohol .... Among the nonvegetarians, there was no evidence of a positive association with the frequency of meat consumption. Among the other dietary factors, the only statistically significant associations with risk were for fruit and white bread consumption. Participants with the highest consumption of fresh or dried fruit experienced a reduction of colorectal cancer risk ... although the association was no longer statistically significant after adjusting for smoking and alcohol. Participants eating 15 or more slices of white bread per week compared with those eating less than 15 had significantly higher risk .... which remained highly significant after adjusting for alcohol and smoking. After adjusting for alcohol intake, both current and former smokers had an increased risk of colorectal cancer compared with the never smokers ..... Among the other lifestyle factors, social class, exercise, alcohol consumption, and body mass index were not significantly associated with the risk of colorectal cancer.


Discussion:

......... The main limitation is the relatively small number of colorectal cancer cases and the lack of sophistication of the food frequency questionnaire.

......... The present analysis did not find a significant difference in risk between nonvegetarians and vegetarians. Furthermore, no increase in risk of colorectal cancer was seen with higher meat consumption among nonvegetarians. Nevertheless, the lack of statistical association may reflect the relative small number of cases.


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After following more than 10,000 people for 17 years, investigators found that vegetarians were 15 percent less likely to develop colorectal cancer than meat-eaters.
http://www.reutershealth.com/archiv...216elin001.html


If it had been the Atkins diet versus Vegetarian diet there would have been "no statistical difference".

Ever notice than when a bias writer writes something it's always a:

"diet rich in fruits...." rich impling wonderful
"high fat..." meaning too high
"low carbohydrate..." mean not enough

Gotta love these people.

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Old Tue, Feb-17-04, 20:28
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In other words, Doreen,

. . . they didn't find squat.

EXCEPT some association with white bread.


But notice, they didn't title the piece "White bread eaters face higher cancer risk."


Weird Political Science.
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In other words, Doreen,

. . . they didn't find squat.

LOL!! Yep. I'd say what we have here is an example of "Creative Reporting".


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So... based only on the excerpts that Doreen has posted, I would say that this scientific study suggests that smoking may increase one's risk of colorectal cancer. That's it. All other conclusions may be purely a product of cooincidence and chance.

I fail to see how this supports vegetarianism and indicts low-carb; the two aren't even mutually exclusive. Just goes to show how badly the media can twist things.

<edit> LOL, right - smoking AND white bread! I wonder how much grant money was spent on this?

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When I was in school, we dissected studies like this so we would know what NOT to do.
And what's with the scientist going "That's unexpected."
You aren't supposed to have ANY expectations! That's why you are doing the dang study.
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What these people fail to acknowledge is that an association or a correlation is never, EVER, a proof of a causation!
You can associate two parameters (for example, vegetarianism and cancer), but UNLESS you adjust for every single variable possible, your results are not going to be meaningful. Also, you have to have a decent number of cases to work with, and 95 patients os much too low...
That's a prime example of junk science!
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I read a newspaper article about a study which showed eating pizza reduced incidence of certain cancers significantly. Pizzas I get are loaded with processed meat and dripping with fat.
There was some suggestion that it was the tomato sauce which gave the protection.
Even with studies like this people can not get rid of their fat phobia.
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Hi
Probably preaching to the converted here, but check this page from Mercola
http://mercola.com/2004/feb/18/sugar_cancer.htm
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This is a great study, Bloveld. It's kind of buried down here - why don't you post it as a separate thread?

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I thought the actual journal study was reasonable and did not overstate it's findings. It was the media report that was biased, sensationalist and an irresponsible piece of reporting.
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That's true, EvelynS, even though such a small number of participants clouded the findings significantly.
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