And I have to ask myself, "WHY?"

In Vegan Collagen: What to Know , they answer my second question:



Let me guess: it doesn't deliver the same type of results. As vegan always seems to.

I've now got a reflexive angry word in my head every time I see the word "plant-based." I can't wait for it to go the way of "fat-free" and "green light for lots of sugar!" and other cons that bribe up some health excuse or other.

And while I'll never get over this one, the trial in South Africa revealed that it really is a global corporate conspiracy to kill us all. Eventually.

As a species, we need to figure out a way to divert this power for good

Ahhh, how we mess with mother nature just to make $$$$$.

Eat head to tail as mother nature intended.

At least the "Plant Based" labelling is usually big and bright, so it makes it easier to keep walking to the real food in the grocery store (including plants in their natural state).

I am in a weight loss club in real life where one of the members eats a plant-based diet. She's a good friend actually which means I have to often bite my tongue. She has all sorts of food intolerances and thyroid problems. I asked her once what one of the thyroid doctors (Dr. Isabella Wentz) she reads said to do about a particular problem and she said "eat beef", but she can't bring herself to do so. I feel sorry for her being so locked in it's like she has no choice. And therefore can't change anything that might lead to her feeling better. It's a curious phenomenon to observe.

She is taking collagen these days; I don't know what kind.

Where are the outcries similar to those heard regarding GMOs??? Could this be blatant hypocrisy, again???

Here's the thing. Every part of a cow, for example, is used for something. These self-righteous vegans are using products from cows each and every day and don't even know it.

The following was taken from a Discover magazine article I read in 2001 (and kept, since it had so much info).

Blow is a list of how every part of the cow is used. Since this article was written in 2001, there might be more or fewer uses. The article



That was the sidebar to the article. The article itself mentions additional uses:

"Heparin, a frequently prescribed anticoagulant drug, is made from the lungs and bones mucosa. The adrenal gland is used in making steroid drugs. The pancreas and the thymus gland are better known to diners as sweetbreads, and the pancreas itself is used to make insulin. Cosmetics and pharmaceuticals are made from the placenta. The fura mater is used as an implant in human brain surgery."

"It has been said, and not altogether facetiously, that the only industry in which some part of the cow is not used is concrete production. But if the concrete is loaded onto a truck with rubber tires and driven down a paved road, or if the production company's annual report is printed on glossy paper, or if the company office uses plywood in its construction, then cow parts are involved. The paper is probably coated with a gelatinous chemical ultimately derived from tallow. The tires and the pavement are manufactured, in part, with bovine fatty acids, and the plywood is bound together with adhesive made partly of cow blood."


Phew! My fingers are tired of typing!

If anyone would like a copy of the article, PM me and I'll send you one.

EDITED TO ADD: And then there are the obvious uses, such as handbags, satchels, briefcases, totes, shoes, boots, clothing, decor, saddles, the list goes on and on.

Thank you, BawdyWench! I recognized the futility of veganism when I realized it would put all the then-dead tree edition books off limits... and the parchments... and modern e-book production uses computers, which uses plastic.

It lets us realize there are things we can't duplicate as well as nature has; a local museum has a science section devoted to this kind of study. I always found organic gardening superior, and had success with roses that way. It's a sound approach to problems, obviously.

Veganism for health is obviously ludicrous. Strictness is not possible if someone lives in the modern world, so it makes no logical sense. Which is why I call it a belief system, where any inconsistencies get rationalized away. Then people might get upset over the different ways people solve for inconsistency.

While I understand veganism for principle... they would actually do more good for animals if they ate humanely-raised meat.

Someone did a documentary which showed how many animals die in the fields which grow the soy and cotton. Why should vegans feel superior because they don't EAT them? That means they were "wasted" which is not part of the circle of life.

Everything in our society was at one time in a cardboard box held together with glue. So my Kindle full of ebooks would still not be vegan.

The words "humanely raised" is a start AND a goal. I don't see vegans contributing. They are actually, like JLx's friend who can't eat beef, hurting themselves: which is also betraying an ethical obligation. I don't think an ethical belief system should be about hurting anyone, including the one who holds that belief.

My eyes rolled so hard when I saw plant-based collagen that they rattled in their sockets.

That's me in the jerky aisle. People, I came here for a reason.

Carnivore people don't demand baked potatoes made of meat.