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Old Mon, Apr-01-24, 07:11
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Now KIDS are going to get Ozempic! NHS-affiliated trial will give dozens of fat children as young as SIX the powerful slimming jabs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...mming-jabs.html
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Old Mon, Apr-01-24, 08:20
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We knew it was going to happen.

I just can't imagine being a kid and dealing with the side effects of those drugs - nausea, vomiting, severe constipation and/or diarrhea. Severe stomach pains if they dare to try to eat anything with more than minimal fat content.

Exhaustion because they're not able to take in enough high quality food energy to keep going. Muscle loss. Hair loss. "Ozempic face" - can you imagine being 12 years old, looking and feeling like someone who's 70 because your face looks so haggard and you've lost half you hair?

While I don't want the kids in the study to feel awful, I hope that it very quickly shows it's simply not a viable method for kids. (preferably before they even get to the 2nd week)

And whether or not the trial goes on as long as planned, that they also follow up on their ongoing results after the drug is removed, and realize that this is no more effective at keeping weight off than it is for adults.

What makes them even imagine this is a viable plan for kids? It's not even viable for adults! As soon as you discontinue the drug, the weight piles back on at an alarming rate, because it does nothing to help them in the long run.

It's the crappy diet they're eating that's the root of the problem. Even if they're not binging on junk food, they've no doubt done a "healthy" low fat diet with minimal protein, but loads and loads of "healthy" carbs. They need to open their eyes and realize that's what make them fat to begin with.
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We knew it was going to happen.

I just can't imagine being a kid and dealing with the side effects of those drugs - nausea, vomiting, severe constipation and/or diarrhea. Severe stomach pains if they dare to try to eat anything with more than minimal fat content.


These are growing children! And they can't get much protein this way, either.

It illustrates how they know overweight is a problem, but refuse to say IT'S THE CARBS.

If fast food manufacturers are worried about the impact to their profits from people losing weight, while the drug lets them eat carbs... I don't blame anyone for being confused, but confusing one's body?

That will come to no good end.
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It illustrates how they know overweight is a problem, but refuse to say IT'S THE CARB




Right!!! Right ! Right!
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Old Fri, Apr-05-24, 12:24
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These are growing children! And they can't get much protein this way, either.

It illustrates how they know overweight is a problem, but refuse to say IT'S THE CARBS.

If fast food manufacturers are worried about the impact to their profits from people losing weight, while the drug lets them eat carbs... I don't blame anyone for being confused, but confusing one's body?

That will come to no good end.


Carbs are considered innocent in weight gain though - they're only 4 calories/gram, whereas that evil fat is 9 calories/gram.

Of course it's best if you get your carbs from whole grains and fruit, because you'll get a couple grams of fiber from each serving.


Protein? The nutrition labels all list how much protein there is per serving, but there's no RDA for protein on that label. And you can get all the protein you need from plant based foods - so that slice of whole grain bread counts as part of your protein.

Not to mention that the CDC says you only need 0.8g protein per kg of body weight - so a child who weighs 30 lbs needs less than 11 g of protein/day. (I have recently seen that interpreted to mean that the body can't handle more 0.8 g protein/kg of body weight - that's how twisted this has become)

It's just a mess - everything is upside down from what it should be.
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