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Food tsar quits in protest at failure to tackle obesity

Henry Dimbleby says ministers’ refusal to curb the junk food industry is making the population fat and crippling the NHS


Henry Dimbleby has resigned as the government’s so-called food tsar in order to be free to criticise its “insane” inaction against obesity.

The co-founder of the food chain Leon said the Conservatives would be wise to recall Winston Churchill’s 80-year-old mantra that a country’s greatest asset is its healthy citizens.

Instead, ministers had adopted an “ultra-free-market ideology”, Dimbleby said, which meant they refused to impose restrictions on the junk-food industry.

He said this was partly to blame for the fact that 64 per cent of adults in England were either overweight or obese, and that the effect on the NHS was crippling.

Dimbleby, 52, the son of the journalist and broadcaster David, was lead non- executive director at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) for five years until he left last week.

He said: “Winston Churchill talked about the greatest asset a nation can have is the health of its people. He understood that. Andy Haldane, the former chief economist of the Bank of England, recently said the biggest problem we have in terms of productivity in this country is illness, and that our workforce is not fit.

“Yet, somehow, this new version of the Tory party thinks that those aren’t things it should be getting involved in, and it’s just insane. It doesn’t make any sense.”

He added that if the problem were not dealt with, “we’re going to be mopping up for years to come”.

According to Dimbleby, the Conservative Party has “lost its way”. “There is a concern that dealing with these issues could be seen to be ‘nanny state’ and plays badly in the ‘red wall’ constituencies,” he said. “That isn’t the case, actually, but there is concern that we need to be celebrating the great British diets of fish and chips and curry and beer and that junk food is somehow patriotic."

Dimbleby, who was commissioned to conduct an independent review of the food system, known as the national food strategy, said focus groups had shown that constituents in red-wall areas were “as fed-up as everyone else” with unregulated junk food.

In his two-part report, the latter part of which was published in 2021, he recommended taxing the salt and sugar sold for use in processed foods, restaurants or catering businesses. The revenues raised would have been used to provide poorer families with fruit and vegetables.

Dimbleby also advocated reinstating a food A-level and introducing more education about healthy eating in schools.

He also called for large companies to be obliged to report on sales of food and drinks high in fat, sugar or salt, which he said would encourage them to produce a wider range of healthy foods and advertise more healthy products. Dimbleby has expressed frustration that most of his recommendations have not been followed.

The government has delayed until October a ban on promoting buy-one-get-one-free deals on unhealthy snacks, blaming the cost-of-living crisis.

A ban on television adverts for junk food before 9pm and on paid-for adverts online has been delayed by 12 months until 2025. Now he is no longer a government adviser, Dimbleby feels he can “speak openly”. He said: “This government is going backwards. After Boris Johnson’s hospitalisation [with Covid-19 in 2020], they were going to restrict advertising of junk food to children. They’re not going to do that. They’re just not tackling it.”

Not addressing the issue would store up “huge problems” for society, he said, adding: “Defra will say, ‘Oh, we can’t do this because it’ll hurt the food businesses’. Meanwhile, the Department of Health and Social Care will be left to clear up the mess that’s caused by this.

“At the moment it’s forecast that by 2035 it will cost as much to treat type 2 diabetes alone — one diet-related condition — as it will to treat all cancers.

“Whichever government is in power, whatever colour, a large part of their effort is going to be trying to shore up the NHS from the impact of diet-related ill health,” Dimbleby said.

Type 2 diabetes costs the NHS about £10 billion a year and 13.6 million people are at risk of developing the condition, according to Diabetes UK.

A spokesman for the Department of Health and Social Care said: “We take tackling obesity seriously and we will continue to work closely with industry to make it easier for people to make healthier choices.”

Dimbleby was speaking before the publication of his book, Ravenous, co-written with his journalist wife Jemima Lewis, which explores “how to get ourselves and the planet into shape”.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...esity-b8gg9jn8d


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Ravenous: How to get ourselves and our planet into shape

You may not be aware of this - not consciously, at least - but you do not control what you eat. Every mouthful you take is informed by the subtle tweaking and nudging of a vast, complex, global system: one so intimately woven into everyday life that you hardly even know it's there.

The food system is no longer simply a means of sustenance. It is one of the most successful, most innovative and most destructive industries on earth. It sustains us, but it is also killing us. Diet-related disease is now the biggest cause of preventable illness and death in the developed world - far worse than smoking. The environmental damage done by the food system is also changing climate patterns and degrading the earth, risking our food security.

Few people know the workings of the food system better than Henry Dimbleby, co-founder of the Leon restaurant chain, government adviser and author of the radical National Food Strategy. In Ravenous, he takes us behind the scenes to reveal the mechanisms that act together to shape the modern diet - and therefore the world. He explains not just why the food system is leading us into disaster, but what can be done about it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ravenous-o.../dp/B0B7Q11WJH/

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"personal responsibility"
"personal choice"
"the business of America is business."
For profit health care.

End of story here in the U.S. I don't expect it to change in what's left of my lifetime.
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He said this was partly to blame for the fact that 64 per cent of adults in England were either overweight or obese, and that the effect on the NHS was crippling.


This has been jn my thoughts lately.

We, the members of this forum, have the knowledge to teach others the real diet and point out the follies of eating" snack foods".

In DANDR, one of Dr Atkins edicts was to start a local Atkins chapter.

Maybe with food prices rocketing, we can help others buy just the really nutritious foods like meats and vegetables.

We all benefit by having healthier people who dont stress themselves nor the healthcare system.

We have seen how for decades the medical system cant handle obesity, but we can. We know how to drop extra weight. The doctors dont. But we do!!

Ive struggled with how to reach people.....the majority are brain washed by the eatless-exercise more mantra.

How would you start a group? Or hold a seminar?
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I applaud Dimbleby's actions and comments in advance of his book. I sincerely hope it offers sound solutions to our current world health crisis. However, I'm concerned when anyone from any political party gets involved despite proposing sound solutions. My concern stems from the polarization of our values with politics seeming to foment this polarization. Credibility is lost and his message could be lost in the wash of these arguments. The other observation I have is that the severe health crisis we are facing globally due to too much sugar and processed/manufactured inexpensive foods depicted as healthy is that the food companies are able to use the current climate of polarization and disagreement among food and diet acolytes as convenient camouflage. Their messages are well funded and purposely bend the truth where they are able to masquerade their products as being "healthy" using some distorted criteria from some ill-constructed food guidelines. Therefore, the real message of what can constitute healthy eating practices never gets received by the very people who need it. The WHO continues to chant the red meat and cold cuts are killing us mantra, and they are believed by many. The pharmaceutical and medical groups continue to chant that saturated fats are evil and high cholesterol including LDL must be corrected at any cost. That cost has become incredible, as pharma has a huge incentive to keep this cash cow healthy. Meanwhile, the population is confused by these messages, and even if the major governments of the world's nations agreed on a food policy to promote health, I shudder to think what that might look like with the current, conflicting influences. Ok, I'm off my soapbox for today . . .
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Meanwhile, the population is confused by these messages, and even if the major governments of the world's nations agreed on a food policy to promote health, I shudder to think what that might look like with the current, conflicting influences. Ok, I'm off my soapbox for today . . .


I agree. I do not want the government determining what constitutes a healthy diet and then levying taxes accordingly given how unreliable if not corrupt they are.
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We need grass roots program...that means we need to speak up.
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The powers that be must quit making red meats and saturated fats the evil foods.
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More from Henry Dimbleby in this morning's Times:

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Britain’s diet is more deadly than Covid

Our food system is creating a huge health crisis yet politicians are too worried about nannying and too in thrall to business to act


What do you think is the biggest cause of avoidable illness and death in this country? Smoking? Drinking? Drugs? Wrong on every count. The thing that is most likely to kill you before your time is the very thing you need to stay alive: food.

Not all food, of course. Not the kind that, even now, springs to mind when we imagine sitting down to eat: something freshly made, from recognisable ingredients, in a kitchen, by a human. But most of the food eaten in this country is nothing like that. Ultra-processed food — meaning a packaged product, generally high in calories and low in nutrients, containing unfamiliar ingredients that have been through multiple stages of industrial processing — makes up 57 per cent of the British diet. We eat more of this stuff than any other European nation.

More than 80 per cent of the processed food sold in the UK is so unhealthy that, under World Health Organisation guidelines, it is considered unsafe for marketing to children. It doesn’t do adults any good, either. Our diet of cheap, sugary, fatty food is making us pile on the pounds. Sixty per cent of adults in this country are overweight or obese, and by 2060 that proportion is expected to reach 80 per cent.

The side-effects of obesity include depression, anxiety, infertility, high blood pressure, painful joints, breathlessness and broken sleep. That is before we even get to the big ones: cancer, dementia, heart failure and type 2 diabetes, which has its own attendant risks of blindness, peripheral neuropathy and limb amputation. By 2035 the NHS is expected to spend more on treating type 2 diabetes — just one of the multitude of illnesses caused by bad diet — than it does on all cancers today. Already, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development estimates that the UK economy loses £74 billion a year in reduced workforce productivity, shortened lives and NHS costs because of conditions related to a high BMI.

It is extraordinary that there is not a public uproar about this. Imagine if a novel virus started killing and disabling people on such a scale, and with no end in sight. You don’t have to imagine it: we know how far politicians and the public will go to combat such a threat. Unlike Covid, however, the plague of diet-related disease has crept up on us stealthily, under the seductive guise of “choice”. Our food system has slid into dysfunction, taking our bodies with it. This change has been sufficiently gradual to lull us into a kind of helpless submission. No matter how bad the headlines, the British public (and political class) can’t seem to muster an appropriate level of fear. Instead, we recoil instinctively into what we believe to be “common-sense” solutions. Too often, those solutions are not just wrong but counterproductive.

Between 1996 and 2020 successive governments introduced 689 different policies intended to halt our national weight gain. Yet we keep getting fatter and sicker. This is because such policies nearly always come at the problem from the wrong angle. They start from the assumption — shared by most in this country — that dietary ill health is chiefly an issue of personal responsibility; that the answer must be to educate the masses in healthy eating, encourage us to exercise and leave the rest to individual willpower. This feels like common sense. We know our bodies grow or shrink depending on what we put into them and feel a rush of impatience at the idea of blaming “the system” for our expanding waistlines. Surely it is up to each of us to take responsibility for what we eat?

This line of thought fails to address the sheer scale of the problem. In 1950 under 1 per cent of the UK population was clinically obese. Today, the figure is 28 per cent. Are we to believe that, in the intervening years, the population has suffered a massive collapse of willpower? Of course not. Humans have not changed. The food system has.

Many people find it hard to imagine that a food “system” really exists, let alone that it could be shaping their behaviour. The purpose of my new book, Ravenous, is to lift the lid on that system, to show how the vast, complex, strangely invisible machinery that feeds us actually works, and what it is doing to us and our planet. Seventy years ago it was widely assumed the world was on the brink of running out of food. The global population was rising fast — projected to increase from 2.5 billion to nine billion over the coming century. How could all these people be fed?

The so-called Green Revolution saved the day. Scientists developed new, higher-yielding crop breeds. By combining these with artificial fertiliser, pesticides, herbicides and high-tech machinery, farmers could generate much bigger harvests. As expected, the global population boomed. There are eight billion people on the planet today yet the threat of mass starvation has receded. Globally, we produce around 50 per cent more calories per head than we need. (Much more if you include the crops we feed to livestock to get meat.)

Now that revolution’s side-effects are beginning to kill us. The environmental costs of the modern industrial food system are staggering. It is the number one cause of global deforestation, drought, freshwater pollution, soil degradation and biodiversity collapse. After the energy industry it is the biggest cause of climate change, responsible for 25 to 30 per cent of global greenhouse gas emissions. All this, in turn, poses a grave threat to the food system. Unpredictable weather events, poor soil, the decline in pollinating insects, drought, floods, rising sea levels: these are by far the biggest dangers to our food security (bigger even than President Putin’s war in Ukraine). Climate change is already affecting agricultural yields. The parched summer last year produced dismal harvests in Europe. In Italy the worst drought for 70 years led to a drop of about 45 per cent in corn and animal feed crops. In France maize crops were 28 per cent below forecasts.

More recently we’ve seen how a freak cold snap in Spain and Morocco led to vegetable shortages here, exacerbated by a peculiarity of our local food system. UK supermarkets buy most of their produce on fixed-price contracts in order to offer cheap products at stable prices to consumers. They are reluctant to pay more for produce, even when it is in short supply. In continental Europe supermarkets responded to the shortages by paying over the odds to wholesalers, outbidding UK retailers. This meant passing on higher prices to their consumers, which in turn reduced demand — but their shelves were full. I was sent a photo of shrink-wrapped cucumbers, packaged and labelled for a UK supermarket, for sale in a market on the Costa Brava. The producer had simply followed the money.

However, the fundamental threat to our food security is environmental. Our rapacious food system is destroying the ecosystem upon which it depends. And then there is the damage being done to our bodies. Biologically, we are hunter-gatherers. If you have to search for everything you eat, it makes sense to look for things that give you more calories than you expend. When we eat honey, for example, our taste buds respond with intense pleasure: a natural feedback mechanism to reward us for finding such a bountiful source of energy. The same is true of chocolate ice cream. It contains six times as many calories as broccoli and our appetite for it is correspondingly powerful.

This craving is strongest when fat and sugar are combined in a ratio of 1:2, the ratio in breast milk. Food manufacturers use this formula in products such as ice cream, milk chocolate and biscuits, knowing we find it irresistible. Even allegedly savoury products such as ready meals are often doused with sugar and oil to give them a “moreish”’ flavour. Processed food tends to be low in water and insoluble fibre. This is known to slow down the body’s “satiety” signals, the feeling of fullness, so we eat more of it. Because each mouthful is more calorific (and less nutritious) than a mouthful of broccoli the consequences of eating just a little bit more are greater too.

As well as being easy to sell, this kind of food is cheap to make. The Green Revolution has created an abundance of sugar, flour and vegetable oil. So companies have a financial incentive to develop and promote foods that chiefly use these ingredients. They do so not just to capture a bigger slice of the market but to grow the market itself. Young marketeers are taught about the “consumption effect”: people who have more food in their home will eat more of it. In-store promotions such as the classic “bogof” deal (buy one, get one free) are explicitly designed to persuade shoppers to buy more than they intended. Chocolate has an “expandability” of 93 per cent, meaning if you run a bogof on chocolate, customers will on average consume almost twice as much as they would have without the promotion.

The average Briton now consumes five times more crisps than in 1972. We eat 1.5 times as much breakfast cereal (which has become far more sugary). You only have to cast your eye around your local supermarket, where fresh ingredients form a thin coastline around the great landmass of processed, packaged food, to see how the consumer landscape has changed. Confectionery alone — a small section of the processed food market — is worth £3.9 billion. By contrast, the entire fruit and veg market in the UK is worth £2.2 billion per year.

The bigger the market, the greater the economies of scale. Highly processed foods are, on average, three times cheaper per calorie than healthier foods. This is one reason why bad diet is a particularly acute problem among the poorest. How we eat is one of the clearest markers of inequality. A diet of cheap junk food has the peculiar quality that it can make you simultaneously overweight and undernourished. Children in the poorest areas of England are both fatter and significantly shorter than those in the richest areas at ages ten and 11. (The average five-year-old in the UK is shorter than their peers in nearly all other high-income countries.)

Dietary ill health is a major reason why, at the height of the pandemic, people in the most deprived areas were twice as likely to die from Covid. Even before then, the upward trajectory of life expectancy in the UK had begun to slow and, in some areas, go into reverse. Women in the most deprived 10 per cent of neighbourhoods in England now die 3.6 months younger than they did in 2010. Their life expectancy is 7.7 years shorter than that of women in the richest areas. The differential for men is 9.5 years. For “healthy life expectancy” — the number of years a person spends in good health — there is a gap of 19 years between rich and poor.

The problems created by our food system are too enormous and too entrenched to fix through individual willpower alone. Government intervention is required. But politicians are extremely nervous about interfering in matters as personal as what we eat. They are easily intimidated by noisy libertarians, within their own parties and in the media, who punish any whiff of nanny-statism. And they are susceptible to scaremongering from industry lobbyists who fight hard to maintain the multibillion-pound status quo.

Food company bosses have mastered the art of polite intransigence, making sympathetic noises about doing the right thing while refusing to do it. Any politician who attempts to force through change using legislation will be visited by a stream of hand-wringing chief executive’s assuring them, in tone of regretful pragmatism, that such a law would wipe out their profits and put an irreparable hole in the economy.

I recently left my role as lead non-executive director of the Department of Food and Rural Affairs because I can no longer swallow my frustration. There are so many things the government could do to shift the food system on to a better track. (For a full list, please do read my book.) Far from endangering the economy, acting now would prevent us sliding further and further into ill health, low productivity, dwindling tax receipts and a health service so overwhelmed by diet-related disease that it sucks the national coffers dry.

Instead, we are paralysed by political indecision. No, worse — we are going backwards.

Having promised in 2020 to bring in restrictions on junk-food promotions and advertising to children, the government has now “delayed” this until the next election. If it can’t even bring itself to enact this fairly modest – and hugely popular – policy, what hope is there for wider systemic change?

Part of the difficulty is that responsibility for food policy is spread across multiple, often competing, government departments. Too often, these departments end up acting as client states for the industries they represent. It is up to the Treasury, for example, to decide whether food companies should be taxed on the sugar they put into processed food. (This was one of the recommendations I made in the National Food Strategy, an independent report for the government published in 2021.) The Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport decides whether, and when, the advertising of junk food to children should be restricted. The Department for Education decides who is eligible for free school meals. And the Department of Health and Social Care is left to clear up the mess.

Bringing together these fiefdoms in order to force through reform requires strong, consistent leadership at the top. The political tumult of recent years has made that impossible.

And yet the system is fixable. In fact, change is inevitable. Sooner or later, the damage done by our current food system will become politically and economically unsustainable. The question is: how much suffering are we prepared to inflict on ourselves before we intervene? Do we really want to wait until a crisis becomes a catastrophe?


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...covid-jc33p0krj

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It is difficult anymore to eat real, healthy food. Sugar, starches, and seed oils seem to be in everything. The few times a year that I eat in restaurants I always notice that most of every menu option is mainly carbs. Even ordering a steak usually comes with some sort of potato, some bread item and or course the high sugar dessert. Even trying to get a salad is hard to find if you don't want crutons, tortilla chips and a seed oil based dressing.
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The less I eat out, the better off I am, both financially and health-wise. We don't see our less than local friends so often, though. I understand the social pull.

But it's hard to see it as a meal. The only one still worth it is breakfast. I get steak and eggs for about the price of a sandwich with a side. Throwing away 3/4ths of the meal does not appeal.
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While I am not in favor of a nanny-state exerting power over individuals, I would love to see a nanny-state exerting power over advertising and the media.

Too many food producers are allowed to make health claims that seem suspect. Too many food producers have captured dietetic education and licensing/registration. Too much of the media spouts industry propaganda.

Where the science is not settled/is being debated, food producers and media organizations should not be allowed to make health claims or recommendations. The media should be held accountable if they promote one side and fail to acknowledge ongoing scientific debates.

The average person I run across is still convinced eggs for breakfast will kill me and sugary drinks are fine as long as Calories are balanced with exercise. They also think avoiding flour and other processed foods is a new mental health disorder (orthorexia). They heard it in the media and see it on food labels.

The average person I run across thinks the Harvard Healthy Plate has too much protein and not enough starch. Even though the Harvard Healthy Plate is too starch heavy for some of us, it is likely vastly better than how most people I know eat, and supposedly represents the “best consensus recommendation” for healthy eating that nutritionists could agree on given their understanding of the research at the time it was published. The message has been grossly distorted by the media.

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While I am not in favor of a nanny-state exerting power over individuals, I would love to see a nanny-state exerting power over advertising and the media.


It's not a nanny-state if it is used to correct a power imbalance.

Corporations have so much power only government has more. And we only have it in the aggregate, in democracy, as citizens.

We want a sensible food chain that feeds everyone and is not designed to make a few people rich while forcing others to lead lives of malnutrition and the subsequent diseases.

It would be different if the public were educated but that's an even bigger hurdle, isn't it? Some "for their own good" must happen or we wouldn't have seat belt laws and airbags.
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It would be different if the public were educated but that's an even bigger hurdle, isn't it? Some "for their own good" must happen or we wouldn't have seat belt laws and airbags.


If only we could trust that the “for their own good” intervention wouldn’t be twisted by corporate/other interests turning into “eat 6-11 servings of grains every day”, and “stop eating meat and eggs and fat - get your protein from plants”. I am still not sure whether saturated fat is bad or ok or even good, but I am pretty sure the government doesn’t know either.
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Where the science is not settled/is being debated, food producers and media organizations should not be allowed to make health claims or recommendations.


The problem is that the vast majority of researchers and medical personnel DO consider it to be settled, and therefore not debatable.

Almost all of the research is being done based on what they consider to be settled dietary truth - they expect the accepted results, and for the most part the studies are designed (whether intentionally or unintentionally) in such a way that they'll get the results they expect.

This is why when pitting LC against LF, the LC arm of the study usually involves 150-200 g carbs, which is still moderately high carb, with fats and proteins only increased slightly.

Mostly what they're really looking for is small nuances between insignificant changes in diet, the results of which are then blown up to demonize LC and validate LF.

Yes, there are LC researchers out there -the problem is that there's so few that we could probably name every single one of them on here in one breath. There's far more funding to do the LF friendly research, and a list of researchers a mile long doing LF biased research.
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The problem is that the vast majority of researchers and medical personnel DO consider it to be settled, and therefore not debatable.


Definitely. The research itself has been subtly (or not so subtly) corrupted. I have friends in biochemical research (at Harvard, not slouches). The publication bias of the powers that be silences dissenting voices. Rough field to work in.
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