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This looks interesting:

http://www.supersizeme.com/

And who said eating at McDonalds was bad for you ?
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when I first heard about the movie, I thought it was going to be really interesting.

But the more I read about it, the more I think this guy is full of hot air. I don't know why he's going all around talking about this big mystery he's uncovered. He had only one source of food for 30 days and did not exercise. Plus, he didn't even attempt to eat healthy at McDonalds. Instead he forced himself to finish an entire Super Size value meal.

Has anyone else heard of this woman who is doing a similar diet and losing weight? I wonder if she's low carbing it?
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It looks interesting. I will definitely be checking it out.
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within that web site there is a pretty thorough, wide-ranging treatment of humans, historical eating patterns, and today's: The way we eat now - Harvard Magazine
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Hold the fries

Morgan Spurlock, the man behind the film "Super Size Me," talks about eating nothing but McDonald's for 30 days straight and how he feels about Big Macs now.

By Scott Lamb


http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/int...lock/index.html

May 5, 2004 | As Morgan Spurlock tells it, the idea for the film "Super Size Me" came to him in 2002, during one of those quintessentially American moments: He was sitting on the couch, stuffed with Thanksgiving dinner, watching TV. On the evening news that night was a story about two teenage girls who, the previous August, had sued McDonald's (ultimately unsuccessfully) for making them fat. In its defense, McDonald's claimed its food could be eaten as "part of any balanced diet and lifestyle."

Spurlock was struck with inspiration -- what he calls "a really great bad idea" -- to make a documentary about living off nothing but McDonald's for 30 days, just to see if it could be done.

"Super Size Me," which opens nationwide on Friday, follows Spurlock from his pre-McDiet physical checkups -- he started out in perfect health, and consulted three doctors and a nutritionist throughout the month -- through the weight gain, vomiting, sexual dysfunction and depression brought on by his steady intake of Big Macs and fries. In between bites, the 33-year-old filmmaker traveled across the country, visiting schools and talking to nutrition experts, lawyers, schools, a gastric-bypass patient and Don Gorske -- a man who claims to have eaten over 19,000 Big Macs and have a healthy cholesterol level of 155.

The movie is less of an attack on McDonald's than it may seem; the occasional barrage of statistics is relieved by humor and gross-outs (a rectal exam, the McVomit scene). After all, the profits Spurlock used to finance "Super Size Me" came largely from his short-lived MTV show "I Bet You Will," in which he paid people to perform disgusting feats. But the film takes a darker turn as it becomes clear that Spurlock's "great bad idea" is having a truly bad effect on his health.

Salon spoke to Spurlock in the offices of his production company in New York.

Part of the film is devoted to your attempt to get a statement from McDonald's about the movie. Has anyone from the company contacted you yet?

They wouldn't talk to me. I think their thoughts were this was just going to be a little movie that would disappear, and it hasn't. The movie premiered at Sundance, and they said the movie was a supersized distortion, that it was a gimmick, and then six weeks later they announced they were eliminating supersize options from their menu -- and that it had nothing whatsoever to do with this film. Then just a few weeks ago they announced they're coming out with their "Go Active" adult happy meals on May 6. And when does the movie open? May 7. So there's definitely damage control going on.

The subject of the movie is, really, your body -- you gained a lot of weight, your liver was damaged, possibly permanently. How are you feeling? Has it changed how you eat?

I'm much better now. It took me 14 months to lose the weight completely. I pay so much attention to what I eat now because after I gained that weight, I can put it on again just like that. I talked to a doctor -- a friend of mine -- and he said, "Now that you've put on that weight, those fat cells are still in your body, wanting to do what fat cells do, which is store energy. Now whenever you overeat, if your body doesn't use those calories, your body is going to store it."

How did you feel about your girlfriend talking about your sex life?

Most of the time she was being interviewed, I wasn't around, because I wanted her to feel comfortable to say whatever she wanted. When I came back later and went through the footage, I saw that Alex was talking about our sex life, and the editors were both like, "Morgan, we can't put that in the movie," and I was like, "Of course we do. That has to go in there."

I wanted to make a move that was very honest about what was going on with my body, and the way that it impacted my relationship with Alex was evident, not just sexually but mentally: It was hard for me to connect. I was so depressed. I was so run-down.

You've probably heard about Soso Whaley (http://www.cei.org/pages/debunk/debunk_the_junk.cfm), who, for the month of April, also ate nothing but McDonald's, and lost weight.

Well, you know, she's limiting the amount of calories she eats in a day, and she's exercising more: the two things no American does. So, yeah, if every American ate less and exercised more, we wouldn't have an obesity problem. But the fact is we don't. We overconsume and we don't exercise. I think she's kind of missed the point of what the film is about. She's looking at the movie as an attack on McDonald's.

The other thing you should be aware of is that she is a fellow at a lobby group based in Washington, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, which is a lobby group funded by the food companies and by cigarette companies and, god, who knows who else. You have to question their motives.

In 1996, the government was continuing to put through more anti-smoking legislation, and somebody from the Competitive Enterprise Institute wrote a report talking about how awful this legislation was. In this report, they said, "There are some things more important than health." My question is -- what is that? What's more important than the health of your kids? What's more important than your own health?

Were you ever asked to stop or leave while filming in McDonald's?

We were doing an interview in a McDonald's in Boston yesterday and the photographer wanted to get some pictures. So we went up to the counter, I leaned on the counter, and he took pictures of me with the board in the background. And all the people who were working there just looked. Nobody said anything. Because if you're making $5.25 an hour, who cares? It's like, yeah, I'm really going to fight for this, because I'm really upset about you being here.

What about while you were making the movie?

Every once in a while they'd ask us to turn the camera off, and we'd either keep shooting until we got what we wanted, or we'd go to another restaurant and I'd sit down and eat and it'd be fine. But 90 percent of the time, nobody said a thing.

After seeing the movie, I felt the same need to talk to people about it as when I saw "Bowling for Columbine." What do you think about being compared to Michael Moore?

Well, first off, that a movie would make you want to talk -- that's what needs to happen right now. There needs to be more dialogue, because we've become completely complacent in our culture about how we eat. Eating has become mechanical. It's just, Oh I'm hungry, I'll go in here and eat this, and we don't think about it. We don't think about where our food comes from or what it's doing to our bodies.

And as far as being compared to Michael Moore -- that's incredible, what an honor to be compared to that guy. This is my first movie, and I just tried to make a good movie.

Are you surprised at the way the film has taken off?

It's been like wildfire what's happened. I think it's because people want change, and they're tired of what's going on. There have been so many news stories, and I think the movie opens it up a little more, in a way that makes it very accessible. We have, in the film, created something that really talks about this incredible epidemic in our country.

With the success of Michael Moore's films and others, it seems like there is a growing trend of left-leaning, progressive, anti-corporate documentaries. Why is that?

I think that documentary is your last bastion for any truth today. It's the one place where you have no media conglomerate telling you what to say, the one place where people aren't going to put a vice on opinion and on fact. You can put something out that takes a stand and says, Listen, you need to know this.

Whereas it's like watching "Entertainment Tonight" when you watch the 10 o'clock news. What happened to the news? Didn't we actually use to get news here?

Do you still eat fast food?

I had a burger yesterday. I don't eat much fast food, because there are so many better places to get burgers.

What's your favorite thing on the McDonald's menu?

Big Macs. Big Macs are so good. I will smell a Big Mac, and immediately my mouth will water and I will crave it. I'm like one of Pavlov's dogs. But I can't eat them now. I can't stomach their food -- it doesn't even taste like food to me. If I eat their french fries they taste like smoked plastic to me. They taste like the most artificial, manufactured, long, yellow thing. And their Cokes -- if I drink a fountain Coke from there, up and down my nasal passages for hours afterward I'll smell this chemical aroma.

I've become so hypersensitive to their food that my body just instantly picks up on everything artificial in it, which is a lot of it. It's probably been about a year now since I've eaten there. Though to this day I'll smell it and I'll want it.

What was the scariest thing about the whole "Super Size Me" experience for you?

You know, of all the crazy things that happened to me and as bad as I felt, the most frightening thing of all is the school lunch program. We feed our kids terribly in schools. It's atrocious. When it comes to the lunchroom, they might as well be eating in a 7-Eleven in a lot of these schools.

Yeah, I went to a high school that was one of the first to have a McDonald's in the cafeteria.

Oh my god. See, that's a disturbing thing. That's completely fucked up.
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[B]Hold the fries

May 5, 2004 | As Morgan Spurlock tells it, the idea for the film "Super Size Me" came to him in 2002, during one of those quintessentially American moments: He was sitting on the couch, stuffed with Thanksgiving dinner, watching TV. On the evening news that night was a story about two teenage girls who, the previous August, had sued McDonald's (ultimately unsuccessfully) for making them fat. In its defense, McDonald's claimed its food could be eaten as "part of any balanced diet and lifestyle."

Spurlock was struck with inspiration -- what he calls "a really great bad idea" -- to make a documentary about living off nothing but McDonald's for 30 days, just to see if it could be done.


See, thats the issue that I have with it. I think it would be really interesting to see what happened if he actually worked the balanced lifestyle portion of that statement into the documentary. But he didn't exercise at all and he forced himself to eat even when his stomach was full.

It'll probably be an amusing movie, but I don't think it's taking a very serious look at the real obesity issue in America.
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I heard an interview with Spurlock in NPR, in which he talked about the dangers of his "high fat diet," clearly blaming the bad health effects on the fat content of his 30 day McDonald's diet. He completely ignores the fact that his diet was even higher in carbohydrates. Again, he blamed "fast food culture" for the obesity problem in the US, ignoring the fact that if you throw away the bun and skip the fries and shakes, the rest of the meal is pretty healthy. When will the media stop propagating bad nutritional information?
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Spurlock has been conditioned just like the rest of us to think that fat is bad. It's going to be a long while before people are de-programmed to think that way.

But I disagree with your statement. McDonald is factory made food. Everything that's in it has been factory made and drenched with chemicals, preservatives, flavor enhancers, what have you. Furthermore, every single fat that either goes in the food or is used to cook with is hydrogenated.

For example here are the ingredients in a semingly Atkins friendly meal :

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Grilled Chicken Bacon Ranch Salad:
Grilled Chicken Breast Filet: Boneless, skinless chicken breast filets with rib meat containing: up to 12% of a solution of water, seasoning [salt, sugar, garlic powder, onion powder, spices, whey, flavor (maltodextrin, natural flavors (vegetable source), dextrose, monosodium glutamate), partially hydrogenated soybean and cottonseed oils, Romano cheese (Romano cheese {milk, cheese cultures, salt, enzymes, calcium chloride}, nonfat dry milk, disodium phosphate), parmesan cheese powder (enzyme modified parmesan cheese {milk, cheese cultures, salt, enzymes, calcium chloride}, nonfat dry milk, disodium phosphate), xanthan gum, cheese flavor (dehydrated cheddar cheese {cultured pasteurized milk, salt, enzymes}, maltodextrin, autolyzed yeast extract), extractives of paprika (color), potassium sorbate (preservative), citric acid, and less than 2% silicon dioxide added to prevent caking], partially hydrogenated soybean oil and partially hydrogenated corn oil with citric acid (preservative), sodium phosphates. May contain wheat from contact with Crispy Chicken Breast Filet.

McDonald is NOT healthy by any stretch of the imagination.
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See, thats the issue that I have with it. I think it would be really interesting to see what happened if he actually worked the balanced lifestyle portion of that statement into the documentary. But he didn't exercise at all and he forced himself to eat even when his stomach was full.

It'll probably be an amusing movie, but I don't think it's taking a very serious look at the real obesity issue in America.


In all honesty, how many people do you know that eat at McDonalds are concerned about eating a balanced meal or planning to hit the gym afterwards?

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here's Roger Ebert's review, note his bashing low carb in favor of Pritikins. Poor misguided soul.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/eber...s-super07f.html

BY ROGER EBERT

Of course it is possible to eat responsibly at McDonald's, as spokesmen for the chain never tire of reminding us. Fast food is simply one element of a balanced nutritional plan. Of course it's the unbalanced element, unless you order the fish filet sandwich with no mayonnaise and one of those little salads with the lo-cal dressing; then you'll be fine, except for the refined white flour in the bun and the high intake of sodium. Eating responsibly at McDonald's is like going to a strip club for the iced tea.

I say this having eaten irresponsibly at McDonald's since I was in grade school, and one of the very first McDonald's outlets in the nation opened in Urbana. Hamburgers were 15 cents, fries were a dime. Make it two burgers, and we considered that a meal. Today it is possible to ingest thousands of calories at McDonald's, and zoom dangerously over your daily recommended limits of fat, sugar and salt. I know because Morgan Spurlock proves it in "Super Size Me."

This is the documentary that caused a sensation at Sundance 2004 and allegedly inspired McDonald's to discontinue its "super size" promotions as a preemptive measure. In it, Spurlock vows to eat three meals a day at McDonald's for one month. He is examined by three doctors at the beginning of the month and found to be in good health. They check him again regularly during the filming, as his weight balloons 30 pounds, his blood pressure skyrockets, his cholesterol goes up 65 points, he has symptoms of toxic shock to his liver, his skin begins to look unhealthy, his energy drops, he has chest pains, and his girlfriend complains about their sex life. At one point his doctors advise him to abandon McDonald's before he does permanent damage. The doctors say they have seen similar side-effects from binge drinkers, but never dreamed you could get that way just by eating fast food.

It's amazing, what you find on the menu at McDonald's. Let's say you start the day with a sausage and egg McMuffin. You'll get 10 grams of saturated fat -- 50 percent of your daily recommendation, not to mention 39 percent of your daily sodium intake. Add a Big Mac and medium fries for lunch, and you're up to 123 percent of your daily sat fat recommendation, and 96 percent of your sodium. For dinner, choose a Quarter Pounder with cheese, add another medium order of fries, and you're at 206 percent of daily sat. fat and 160 percent of sodium. At some point add a strawberry shake to take you to 247 percent of sat. fat and 166 percent of sodium. And then remember that most nutritionists recommend less fat and salt than the government guidelines.

There is a revisionist interpretation of the film, in which Spurlock is identified as a self-promoter who on behalf of his film ate more than any reasonable person could consume in a month at McDonald's. That is both true and not true. He does have a policy that whenever he's asked if he wants to "super size it," he must reply "yes." But what he orders for any given meal is not uncommon, and we have all known (or been) customers who ordered the same items. That anyone would do it three times a day is unlikely. Occasionally you might want to go upscale at someplace like Outback, where the Bloomin' Onion Rings all by themselves provide more than a day's worth of fat and sodium, and 1,600 calories. Of course they're supposed to be shared. For best results, share them with everyone else in the restaurant.

Of course we bear responsibility for our own actions, so . . . is it possible to go to McDonald's and order a healthy meal? This week a Chicago nutritionist told a Sun-Times reporter that of course Spurlock put on weight, because he was eating 5,000 calories a day. She suggested a McDonald's three-meal menu that would not be fattening, but as I studied it, I wondered: How many customers consider a small hamburger, small fries and a Diet Coke as their dinner? When was the last time you even ordered a small hamburger (that's not a Quarter Pounder) at McDonald's? Don't all raise your hands at once.

Oh, I agree with the nutritionist that her recommended three meals would not add weight; her daily caloric intake totaled 1,460 calories, which is a little low for a child under 4, according to the USDA. But even her menu would include 54 grams of fat (15 saturated), or about one third of calories (for best heart health, fat should be down around 20 percent). And her diet included an astonishing 3,385 mgs of sodium (daily recommendation: 1,600 to 2,400 mgs). My conclusion: Even the nutritionist's bare-bones 1,460-calorie McDonald's menu is dangerous to your health.

I approached "Super Size Me" in a very particular frame of mind, because in December 2002, after years of fooling around, I began seriously following the Pritikin program of nutrition and exercise, and have lost about 86 pounds. Full disclosure: Fifteen of those pounds were probably lost as a side effect of surgery and radiation; the others can be accounted for by Pritikin menus and exercise (the 10,000 Step-a-Day Program plus weights two or three times a week). So of course that makes me a True Believer.

You didn't ask, but what I Truly Believe is that unless you can find an eating program you can stay on for the rest of your life, dieting is a waste of time. The pounds come back. Instead of extreme high-protein or low-carb diets with all their health risks, why not exercise more, avoid refined foods and eat a balanced diet of fruits and veggies, whole grains, fish and a little meat, beans, soy products, low-fat dairy, low fat, low salt? Of course I agree with McDonald's that a visit to Mickey D's can be part of a responsible nutritional approach. That's why I've dined there twice in the last 17 months.
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It makes me want to tell my kids....never again!
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I saw this film, thought it was mildly entertaining while there were some really BORING parts...i'm not too sure the mainstream is ready for Spurlock. If there's anything that dieting's taught me, its that its all about portion control... its obvious that this guy went WAAAY overboard to try and prove a point. in my mind he really created an issue an then documented it... I just don't buy his political agenda.
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