Yes I know about the K for premature babies. That's what makes me wonder.

I had a mother who always pressed to me how important it is as we age to make sure to be cautious of blood clots and also thromboses. I take vitamin E from time to time and did have an issue with giving blood once because it wouldn't flow and kept clotting although I think I was dehydrated.
I just don't want to do more harm than good.

I know what you mean both on clot awareness and doing more harm than good. You have to play the cards you're dealt.

One thing that the existing research seems to show is, once again, artificial versions of the vitamin do more harm.

My Vitamin K question - why isn't MK-9 a thing? It's plentiful in cheese. Vitamin K could just be under researched or is it the "saturated fat" and/or vegan biases?

Honey blog with handy Vitamin K tables

Yes it does seem that saturated fat has a lot to do with higher levels. One example is yolks v whites.

The highest is in Goose liver, " foie gras, the fattened liver of force fed geese, stands out as the richest source of vitamin K2 in the form of menaquinone-4."

I would think that triple cream Brie is high also although they were vague on the exact cheeses they tested.

Yes!!
IMHO, and it is only my opinon as I am not a specialist in this: the Vit K2, is the calcium modulator; and it is confused by too many as a blood clotting factor. I wonder if ANY doctor tells people to NOT eat the foods high in VItamin K2 like natto if they are on blood thinners???? I certainly didnt get that message when I was on plavix for 6 months. ( During stent imbedding into artery tissue.)

IMO bblood thinners are the quick fix which really isnt a fix at all. It is a cover up.

I clot well enough on the vitamin K2--- my skin is thin ( lack of testosterone) and my dog like to jump up on me = wicked scratches, worst than ANY cat ! No noticeable decrease in clotting time for me. ( I have a 5 inch scar on leg and now a 3 inch scab on hand.)

That is MY TWO CENTS!

THere is much out there on the www from reputable sources and N=1 experiences that keep suppporting that K2 and K1 work on the blood clotting. THis is rather unfortunate. Too bad the K2 could not be named another letter of the alphabet.

ANd it is unfortunate that doctors even specialists are woefully ignorant.

Vitamin K2 is not recognized by any US agency as a necessary nutrient.

having said that the USDA RDA info is antiquated and basically useless; only set as a limit to PREVENT a disease state but NOT set at a level for optimum health.

Why is the goose liver pate so high compared to all else????????

No listing of whether grass fed or not.... often in Europe their stock is on grass and not in feed lots like US livestock.

I save the duck livers-- would like to learn to make pate. I know I like it, love liverwurst too. Just want to source my own livers.

Well the thing is that the real Foie gras is made by totally filling up their craw with corn.

People write that it's cruel but I saw a program about it and it is basically like feast and famine that a naturally migrating goose would experience on long migrations and then finding food. Here there are rice fields that fill up with tens of thousands of geese in the fall where they gorge for days and weeks.

Isn't this why you and I were so focused on triple cream brie a while back, the K?

LOL yes, the brie!!

Dangerously good. FIgure the natto is a cheaper source of K2..... and the K2 is in certain dairy, gouda, and a couple others. And the longer aged the more likely.

After eating a few absolutely delicious aged cheese, my knuckles started to swell and be painful. Ive steered clear of the aged cheeses since, and as Im trying to get back into ketosis, shoved dairy off my plate, for now.

Isnt is odd that the geese are super fed corn, yet it is the grasses that feed the gut microbes that make the Vitamin K2....? Doesnt make sense that the goose liver pate should have high K2.

I just looked at prices on ebay and amazon for French canned foie gras pate and it's crazy expensive plus in the ingredients I saw Sodium Nitrate and some sugar that should not be there!

lol, the effects of the hman taste buds that must have everything sweet, and the effects of government control......

Discovered a CHinese groccery today!! All packaging was bilingual, but... even the English words were completely unknown!! A million versions of wheat products... and no NATTO.

In the Dental diet,
" we now know that vitamin K2 plays a role in forming and strngthening bones by activating osteocalcin which ehlps carry calcium into bones. 38 We also know that K2 activates Matrix GLA Protein, which helped remove calcium from arteries to prevent artery hardening. 39"

Basically calcium and vitamin D cannot do the work with out vitamin K2; and explains the increase in heart attack rates ; no increae in bone strength. It also reduces kidney stones. ANd generally is involved with kidney disease. A role in preventing formation of gall stones; and protecting from prostate cancer.

mk-4 is derived from grass fed animals, like butter, chicken, shellfish and emu oil.

MK-7 comes from bacteria production, like natto, sauerkraut, and cheeses ( Gouda and brie)

On p 78, Dr Lin presents 3 diagrams that tell how teeth are alive and how the teeth are able to remineralize and has immunity , IF given the resources. REMARKABLE.

I HIGHLY recommend this book!

mk-7, funny, those are all fermented foods.
But I wonder why just those cheeses and not the others?

Makes so much sense.

It's about the bacteria, or innoculant, used to ferment inside the cheese.. So really these cheeses fits in BOTH catagories : dairy and fermenting.